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    Skuxx24
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 703

    I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


    Well last night i was playing franchise. I play with all 32 teams so i am half way through week one and i go into coach sliders and do some editing.

    I lower the Priority slider to 20 for everything except all o line postions. I sim a game and was amazed that the Giants and the Redskins had 4 rushing TD's between them. So i do bout 5 other diffrent games and pretty much the same.

    I sim a season and the results are awesome. 4 guys with over 4000 yards passing 4 guys with over 30 plus TDs throwing. The
    Rushing leaders was the biggest improvement 14 people over 1000 Yards rushing 9 of those rushers had over 12 TD's each. 4 other non 1000 rushers had Ten TD seasons.

    Receving TDs and yards dropped as well i was stunned. I did four more seasons to see if it was a one off and pretty much the same everytime.

    So the priority does affect stats in some way don't know excatly. Also when you play a game lineman seem to get a lot more pancakes been averaging about 4 a game using these. Also the big issue back ups RBS getting about 3.8. TO 4.1 rushing ypc better than 1.7. i have been seeing before.

    Also the highest amount of sacks by a team in those four season were 58. Great results.

    OK that is my little rant i hope it helps.
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    NRL:New Zealand Warriors

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    TheCreep
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    • Nov 2008
    • 1792

    Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


    Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

    I've been wondering what the priority sliders actually do. I've tinkered with them myself but I haven't seen a big difference in RB tds. Could be that I didn't change them as drastically as you did.

    The lowest I moved any players priority slider was 50. I'm going to try moving the sliders lower to see what happens.

    The thing is, are priority sliders the setting for what coaches focus on as far as drafting during the off season, or are the sliders used for what player is focused on during actual games?

    From your outcome it seems that the sliders are for actual games, and that is the road I've taken also. For example, I sifted through all 32 teams and based the priority sliders around the strengths and weakness of each team.

    If the team has a great QB, keep priority slider at 100. Average RB? Ok, I lower the RB priority down to around 60 or 70. Speedy RBS? Priority slider 80 and set the bottom slider to speed (empty slider box), etc, etc.

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    • #3
      Skuxx24
      Pro
      • Sep 2008
      • 703

      Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


      Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

      Originally posted by TheCreep
      I've been wondering what the priority sliders actually do. I've tinkered with them myself but I haven't seen a big difference in RB tds. Could be that I didn't change them as drastically as you did.

      The lowest I moved any players priority slider was 50. I'm going to try moving the sliders lower to see what happens.

      The thing is, are priority sliders the setting for what coaches focus on as far as drafting during the off season, or are the sliders used for what player is focused on during actual games?

      From your outcome it seems that the sliders are for actual games, and that is the road I've taken also. For example, I sifted through all 32 teams and based the priority sliders around the strengths and weakness of each team.

      If the team has a great QB, keep priority slider at 100. Average RB? Ok, I lower the RB priority down to around 60 or 70. Speedy RBS? Priority slider 80 and set the bottom slider to speed (empty slider box), etc, etc.

      Yeah this is what i thought it was for as well the draftign logic. But with the results it seems not. Here is what i did regarding your question For QBS set the slider to the rating to what the overall is. I understand for 89 ovr QBS just set it to 90. Everything else 20 except OLINE players.

      Also for all the players that are rated 99 or 98 just put it to 100 i have found that these players perform better in sim and in a acutal game.
      NBA:Philadelphia 76ers
      NFL:Philadelphia Eagles
      NHL:Philadelphia Flyers
      NRL:New Zealand Warriors

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      • #4
        bill2451
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 1123

        Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


        Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

        wow, this is very interesting... i'm def gonna have to do some testing. If this works like you say, it would be awesome

        if not, i'm now gonna be extremely disappointed lol

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        • #5
          Skuxx24
          Pro
          • Sep 2008
          • 703

          Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


          Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

          Originally posted by bill2451
          wow, this is very interesting... i'm def gonna have to do some testing. If this works like you say, it would be awesome

          if not, i'm now gonna be extremely disappointed lol

          It is Madden lol you are going to get dissapointed somehow. But if it worked for four seasons then maybe it does. I can"t tell anyone here that your going to get 100% superb results. I know bill you are a guru at these things so you might be able to enhance it even better.

          I am going to do some testing later tonight and ill post some results tommrow.

          Also i suggest simming game by game that is how i done my results..
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          NFL:Philadelphia Eagles
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          NRL:New Zealand Warriors

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          • #6
            TheCreep
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            • Nov 2008
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            Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


            Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

            It would be great if we had some type of tutorial that explains what coach scheme sliders really do ya know.

            From the stats you posted it seems like you might be on to something. Guess we were thinking the same way. I dont think I'm going to have time this week to really get in depth with this though.

            One more thing that worries me. This is pretty much the first time anyone has really talked about these particular sliders. I've seen threads regarding "run vs pass" sliders and aggressiveness but never priority sliders.

            I think we might be delving into some completely untested waters with these. Will the same problems arise as with the "original" sliders that everyone plays around with? Things like, do these sliders even work, are they backwards, how powerful, do they affect sim as well as played games, etc, etc.

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            • #7
              miahwitt60
              Rookie
              • Nov 2009
              • 18

              Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


              Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

              ths is just what i've been looking for,i just starting my first 32 team franchise but i just control the browns and make all GM desicions for everyone else,i hope this can help the fact the through 8 game there are 13 team with 1 or fewer rushing touchdowns

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              • #8
                JaymeeAwesome
                Dynasty Guru
                • Jan 2005
                • 4152

                Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                has anyone else confirmed this? If this is true it stinks that we didn't find this earlier because patch 2 is to fix it all
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                • #9
                  Pedro45
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 11

                  Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                  Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                  This doesn't work. Don't waste your time.

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                  • #10
                    elgreazy1
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2997

                    Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                    Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                    Originally posted by Skuxx24
                    Well last night i was playing franchise. I play with all 32 teams so i am half way through week one and i go into coach sliders and do some editing.

                    I lower the Priority slider to 20 for everything except all o line postions. I sim a game and was amazed that the Giants and the Redskins had 4 rushing TD's between them. So i do bout 5 other diffrent games and pretty much the same.

                    I sim a season and the results are awesome. 4 guys with over 4000 yards passing 4 guys with over 30 plus TDs throwing. The
                    Rushing leaders was the biggest improvement 14 people over 1000 Yards rushing 9 of those rushers had over 12 TD's each. 4 other non 1000 rushers had Ten TD seasons.

                    Receving TDs and yards dropped as well i was stunned. I did four more seasons to see if it was a one off and pretty much the same everytime.

                    So the priority does affect stats in some way don't know excatly. Also when you play a game lineman seem to get a lot more pancakes been averaging about 4 a game using these. Also the big issue back ups RBS getting about 3.8. TO 4.1 rushing ypc better than 1.7. i have been seeing before.

                    Also the highest amount of sacks by a team in those four season were 58. Great results.

                    OK that is my little rant i hope it helps.
                    I've doen something similar but didn't go as extreme as you did with the 20 levels. I simply adjusted things down to 50 at the lowest. Generally I adjust each team for what the coach is known to do with them, not necessarily by the players on the roster. I've seen some good results but I may edit it more to see if I can get better results. Maybe make the range swing from 30-70 with 80+ extremes for elite players/teams (ie: Peyton Manning, Chris Johnson, etc).

                    One thing I've never understood is Run vs Pass with rushing. It seems kind odd that if you want to run more you only have it at 40 and lower; does this actually make a team run more? And as for Aggressiveness, I've never understood it at all.
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                    • #11
                      Flamehead
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 1501

                      Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                      Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                      Hmm, I'll have to give this a try. I've been waiting for patch 2 since reasonable stats are important to me, but this might be an interesting back-up if patch 2 fails to deliver in this regard.

                      Thanks for the tip.

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                      • #12
                        jmurphy31
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2803

                        Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                        Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                        Originally posted by TheCreep
                        It would be great if we had some type of tutorial that explains what coach scheme sliders really do ya know..
                        I agree with this...There is so much in Madden that is unexplained or a mystery...Sliders, D-Line Moves, etc...I know people figure these things out over time, but it should placed in some sort of manual or tutorial....

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                        • #13
                          jinc1019
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 185

                          Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                          Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                          Originally posted by Pedro45
                          This doesn't work. Don't waste your time.
                          Why doesn't it work? It seems like it could logically work out really well. Has anyone had good results with these other than the person who originally posted?
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                          • #14
                            bill2451
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
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                            Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                            Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                            I tried them last night... tested 3 seasons w/ all at default 100, and then 3 seasons with them changed

                            I noticed no difference

                            the op says he simmed one game at a time though, while I simmed each season all at once. Thats really the only thing I did differently

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                            • #15
                              TheCreep
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1792

                              Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise


                              Re: I think i have found something to help get better sim stats in Franchise

                              Originally posted by bill2451
                              I tried them last night... tested 3 seasons w/ all at default 100, and then 3 seasons with them changed

                              I noticed no difference

                              the op says he simmed one game at a time though, while I simmed each season all at once. Thats really the only thing I did differently
                              Oh well, lol. So the mystery remains unsolved, what do these sliders actually do?

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