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**steelers1** · 07-10-2010, 03:37 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Revis is definitely great and is one of the top players in the league, but I don't even understand how someone could go about trying to translate his success to skill positions. I think just looking at his numbers is enough to be impressed.

Times he was targeted: 111 (3rd most in NFL)
Allowed 41 catches (36.9%, lowest in the NFL)
Allowed 425 yards (10.4 yard avg. 16th in league)
Pass breakups: 23 (highest in NFL)
INTs: 6 (3rd highest for a CB)
2 TDs allowed (6th in NFL for guys who were targeted 75+ times)
32.3 QB rating allowed (lowest in NFL).

You can get a higher passer rating even if you don't complete a pass (39.7 is the rating for a guy who completes 0% of his passes and throws no INTs).

He also had 47 solo tackles and 4 assists. He also made 14 stops (tackles that force a punt or FG or turnover on downs).

I don't know about 'equivalent passing yards,' but based on CB stats, his play is extremely impressive. Usually guys that good are avoided (think Nnamdi and Champ in his prime).

**raiders81tim** · 07-10-2010, 10:30 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

All these great cover corners have one great year sta wise then fall off due to people no longer testing them. Remember a few years back nnamdi had 8 ints. Now hes lucky to see 20 passes come his way all year. Same thing will happen to revis.

**Unforgiven** · 07-10-2010, 10:40 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Revis truly is a great player. Just wish he wasn't on the Jets so he could be one of my favorite players.

**Palo20** · 07-10-2010, 10:55 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Originally posted by raiders81tim

All these great cover corners have one great year sta wise then fall off due to people no longer testing them. Remember a few years back nnamdi had 8 ints. Now hes lucky to see 20 passes come his way all year. Same thing will happen to revis.

The difference is that Nnandi almost always stays on the same side of the field, Revis has been following the other team's best WR. Teams have to throw at him or their best guy is not involved in the game.

**cowboyscowboys** · 07-11-2010, 06:17 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Originally posted by raiders81tim

All these great cover corners have one great year sta wise then fall off due to people no longer testing them. Remember a few years back nnamdi had 8 ints. Now hes lucky to see 20 passes come his way all year. Same thing will happen to revis.

I disagree Revis follows the #1 across the field. Historically teams will force their #1's the ball. So I think Revis's workload will drop a little but he will be thrown at way more the Nnamdi even with his reputation.

**Pringles** · 07-11-2010, 06:22 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

revis is good no doubt about it but if the jets d-line was terrible he would not have such great numbers. the jets ability to stop the run, forcing teams to be in 3rd and long has alot to do with his numbers. put him on a team that can not stop the run his numbers would suffer.

**REDRZA** · 07-11-2010, 06:29 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Originally posted by Palo20

I just want to put some perspective on how good Revis was last year. Football Outsiders uses numerous metrics to analyze how effective every player in the NFL was last year. They had Revis as clearly the best player in the league and they quantified how good he was if he had been a "skilled" position player. Here's a chart:

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If those guys performed at Revis' level, Manning would easily break the passing record and Marshall would break the receiving record. Revis was that good, and he did it against every team's best WR (most CBs don't shadow the best WR on the other team).

And here's a video on some of his plays. This is what great CB play should look like in Madden. Great positioning, closing speed and ball skills. I think positioning is his biggest strength, he almost eliminates most routes that the WR can run. It almost looks like the only routes that could work are out breaking routes such as outs or comebacks. Here it is:

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Refreshing to see a PATS fan jocking MY J-E-T-S!!!!

Yes, revis is hands down the best player in the league. Can't wait for football season!

**Bolt4Life** · 07-11-2010, 06:45 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Remember when Cromartie was considered the greatest by many? Takes consistency for a few years imo.

. But he is one of the best players in the league. I wonder how he would fair with the Lions though.

**wrightnreyes** · 07-11-2010, 06:52 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Originally posted by Bolt4Life

Remember when Cromartie was considered the greatest by many? Takes consistency for a few years imo.

. But he is one of the best players in the league. I wonder how he would fair with the Lions though.

Cromartie never did what Revis did. I watched every play of every Jet game last season. You cannot play any better. He got burned one time all season and it was by the worst receiver in the NFL(Tedd Ginn, haha). Sherry Rhodes was at fault though.

The Jets secondary has the chance to be even better then last year. They were #1 in the NFL in pass yards per game by 30 YPG. Scary. That was with a bunch of journeyman corners and Lito 'I suck' Sheppard.

Now the Jets add Cromartie who should bounce back to hopefully his old self in the Jets style of defense and rookie Kyle Wilson who some thought was the #1 corner in the draft.

**MrSkagTrendy** · 07-11-2010, 07:08 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

No offence or anything, but this is very tenuously linked to Madden..

**prime21time37** · 07-11-2010, 07:27 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

revis is definetly a great player. it also helps that he is in a blitz heavy scheme where qbs have little time to throw. not taking anything from him because he is great, but i would take woodson all day (he also is put in a great position by his scheme). hopefully they will be used in the game right, as revis will follow best wr instead of being able to hide your wr in slot or opposite field.

**Bolt4Life** · 07-11-2010, 08:23 PM

Re: The Greatness of Revis

Originally posted by wrightnreyes

Cromartie never did what Revis did. I watched every play of every Jet game last season. You cannot play any better. He got burned one time all season and it was by the worst receiver in the NFL(Tedd Ginn, haha). Sherry Rhodes was at fault though.

The Jets secondary has the chance to be even better then last year. They were #1 in the NFL in pass yards per game by 30 YPG. Scary. That was with a bunch of journeyman corners and Lito 'I suck' Sheppard.

Now the Jets add Cromartie who should bounce back to hopefully his old self in the Jets style of defense and rookie Kyle Wilson who some thought was the #1 corner in the draft.

The problem is, he lacks any type of toughness. In his 2007 amazing season, most the interceptions were straight to him, except against the Colts were he had a freak of a game. If Rex Ryan can somehow help him get rid of his man-gina, then I'll be impressed. But he is the most wussie player I have ever seen, met, and dealt with.

By the way, who cares about yards, what really matters is PPG, and Jets were #1 in that. Just my opinion for future debates thiscoming season.

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