How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

[SuperNoVa27]

Yeah.....title says it all

[Exonerated]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

pretty bad. just imported a 2010 ncaa season.

i think i'm gonna start doing madden created classes now.

[adembroski]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

I totally disagree. I don't think they're bad at all. They tend to correct too low, so there's a nasty tendency to have really weak drafts, but overall I think it's solid.

That said, it works the way I would want them too. Success at the college level does not necessarily translate to success at the pro level, plus this is fairly unpredictable.

A lot of people complain that about half the time, Jake Locker ends up being a middle round pick. At this time last year, we expected that there would be 3 QBs going in the first round: Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, and Jimmy Clauson. In reality, there were two... Bradford and Tim Tebow. McCoy fell off the map... why? Because he was never looked at for his pro potential until he was a senior, at which point it was seen he was lacking.

Sorry to say it: Locker is going to drop down draft boards as the season goes on. He's solid, but Sam Bradford he is not. He may end up a great pro, but he wont be seen as one on draft day.

To sum up: Many people hate the imported draft classes because players don't come in as good as they want them to be. Instead, there's a randomness to distinguish college success from pro potential. Personally, I like it that way. It means I can't just sort by overall in the NCAA roster and write down the seniors and use that as my draft board.

[Exonerated]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

i don't like how there are no gems though.


i took locker 3rd. mallet 4th. pryor 5th. luck 6th.

B,B,B,C potential.

The only two things i have beef is, is players losing 10 speed from ncaa to pro game, and no late round gems. Everyone is drafted by overall.

[bhackler]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

I totally disagree.

It doesnt matter to you that ALL of the equipment and body sizes are COMPLETELY screwed up? Or speed ratings are completely random? It seems most everything is random. Nothing like QB's with Full cage facemasks and enormous linemen arms.

Yes it is broken. It IS that bad. It is all completely random and there's no logic to the importing system at all. It is a stuck on option that hasnt gotten attention at all for the last 5 years... much like franchise.

[ajb3313]

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Hasn't this been a problem for the better part of a decade?

My last memory of this stupid problem: the first year that NCAA introduced superstar mode ('05?) I decided to pick up the game figuring that I could create three or four classes with my created player entering my Madden franchise three or four years in. That aspect of it worked. The problem was, my player had one of the single greatest NCAA careers of all-time. My guy was a cornerback who wound up setting the career record for interceptions and defensive touchdowns. After his freshman year he'd play some at receiver, typically putting up pretty gaudy numbers for a two-way player -- 800 some yards, half dozen or so touchdowns. He was also the most prolific kick and punt returner in college during his four years there.

I didn't pay much mind to the draftees until it got to the year that my superstar was imported into Madden. But then as soon as I started the draft I discovered that he was rated to go in the 6th or 7th round. I was confused, but I figured I'd still draft him and hope it wasn't as bad as it seemed. I grabbed him in the 5th or 6th round, signed him, and went to the depth chart. Turns out, here's a guy who was rated 99 in NCAA and had one of the most remarkable careers the sport has ever seen -- and he was rated in the 50's. How is that even possible? Peter Warrick, Akili Smith... I get it. But at least those guys had the potential to be taken high in the draft. A guy with the production (not to mention ratings) of this player in NCAA should never, ever have translated into such a lousy pro (for no apparent reason, mind you).

[canes21]

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I haven't had a real big problem with importing my draft classes. I prefer it over the generated classes. My only beefs are the potential rating and the ridiculously low awareness ratings some recruits get. I get rookies have to learn, but when the progression in the game is screwy, that 62 awareness rating is not going to get to an 80 ever really.

Its also stupid that a player is limited to a raating cap. I know players have limits they can reach, but I don't think the potential rating is how that should be handled. How does Donny Moore know Byron Westbrook won't be better than a 75 overall? He could become the next Champ Bailey if he had his chance. Unfortunately, in Madden I can't get him to that status, he'll always be a dime back on my team because the game limits his improvement.

[debauchlord]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

Its also stupid that a player is limited to a raating cap. I know players have limits they can reach, but I don't think the potential rating is how that should be handled. How does Donny Moore know Byron Westbrook won't be better than a 75 overall? He could become the next Champ Bailey if he had his chance. Unfortunately, in Madden I can't get him to that status, he'll always be a dime back on my team because the game limits his improvement.

Again, the problem 90% of you are making is attributing personality and emotion to what is simply a jumble of numbers. How does Westbrook translate into the pro game? Who knows? But Madden randomizes the OVRATTSTA etc. digital bytes that transfer over and figures it out that way. Just by circumstance did someone name that player Byron Westbrook. Remember, EA CANNOT have any formal link to college athletes. Too many lawsuits. What you do with your offline dudes is your choice. So when Locker comes in as a fifth round pick, what does EA care? It is not Locker, just a renamed bunch of bytes.

Now I am not saying that the draft import couldn't be better, physical attributes should remain relatively the same, but then again, FAST in college is not necessarily FAST in the pros. To add, I am not terribly disappointed in the imports. There are tweaks that need to be made, true. The age thing kinda pisses me off a bit.

[canes21]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

Byron Westbrook is an NFL CB for the Redskins. He is not a college player. I used him as an example for my potential rating because he is currently a young player who has not had his chance to shine yet, but EA already knows he won't get much better. But thats sort of offtopic, so I will stop.

[alifeincomplete]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

All of this would be solved if Madden would simply give us the ability to edit everything about the draft classes. It's that simple. It's also never going to happen.

[TomBrady]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

I totally disagree. I don't think they're bad at all. They tend to correct too low, so there's a nasty tendency to have really weak drafts, but overall I think it's solid.

That said, it works the way I would want them too. Success at the college level does not necessarily translate to success at the pro level, plus this is fairly unpredictable.

A lot of people complain that about half the time, Jake Locker ends up being a middle round pick. At this time last year, we expected that there would be 3 QBs going in the first round: Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, and Jimmy Clauson. In reality, there were two... Bradford and Tim Tebow. McCoy fell off the map... why? Because he was never looked at for his pro potential until he was a senior, at which point it was seen he was lacking.

Sorry to say it: Locker is going to drop down draft boards as the season goes on. He's solid, but Sam Bradford he is not. He may end up a great pro, but he wont be seen as one on draft day.

To sum up: Many people hate the imported draft classes because players don't come in as good as they want them to be. Instead, there's a randomness to distinguish college success from pro potential. Personally, I like it that way. It means I can't just sort by overall in the NCAA roster and write down the seniors and use that as my draft board.

Have there ever been a draft were there havent been drafted a QB in the first round? Happens ALL the time in madden with imported draft classes.

[canes21]

Re: How Bad are the NCAA 11 draft classes

I have not seen it in Madden yet, I'd like to see some proof to that statement.