Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

[woodjer]

Running with the 49ers in Franchise. Every time I try to run a Wildcat play, it's like Gore is knee deep in mud. He starts the play running straight ahead like an OLineman for the first 5-6 steps, even on the one play that's a run to the outside. At that point, it seems like he gets back to a realistic speed but it's hard to tell since he's basically stuffed at that point anyway. Is this the case with everyone?

I understand limiting the ability to scramble on a Wildcat pass (don't like it, but I kinda understand it) but this seems a little ridiculous to me. If I can't run out of the Wildcat on a designed run play, what's the point of having it in there?

I don't run much out of that formation--and definitely won't if this keeps happening--but it's pretty frustrating.

[TreFacTor]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

Yeah, I use the Eagles, and it's worthless to call any play from their wildcat package. Not being able to put Vick in at Qb, and not having any passing options, they completely destroyed their playbook. doens't surprise me... I have to relearn the playbook every year even though the head coach hasn't changed in 11 years.

[woodjer]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

Yeah, I use the Eagles, and it's worthless to call any play from their wildcat package. Not being able to put Vick in at Qb, and not having any passing options, they completely destroyed their playbook. doens't surprise me... I have to relearn the playbook every year even though the head coach hasn't changed in 11 years.

Ok, guess it's good to know that it's not just me. For your Vick issue though, have you tried subbing him in at QB and then cycling through the packages? I think I saw "QB" as one of the packages in the 49ers playbook where it is still the Wildcat but the QB is taking the snap. I could be mixing it up with NCAA though.

[TreFacTor]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

Ok, guess it's good to know that it's not just me. For your Vick issue though, have you tried subbing him in at QB and then cycling through the packages? I think I saw "QB" as one of the packages in the 49ers playbook where it is still the Wildcat but the QB is taking the snap. I could be mixing it up with NCAA though.

I would have to go to the depth chart and put Vick at RB every time I wanted to use the wildcat... I don't change playbooks. I use the default that way if I decide to go online or play in an online franchise, I can be legit, but the devs always butcher the Eagles playbook, makes it hard to play with them. I think they dumbed it down intentionally because Kolb is a first year starter, but with Vick now starting , they can't add plays to the play book... sucks but I got the game as a gift so I can't complain.... I have sworn off buying Madden starting with Madden 10.

[Sort of Irish]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

I'm pretty sure there is a back up QB package for the wildcat. If not why don't you just sub Vick in for that formation? No need to go into depth chart just use the right stick to change packages and use the right bumper to sub in or out.

[TreFacTor]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

I'm pretty sure there is a back up QB package for the wildcat. If not why don't you just sub Vick in for that formation? No need to go into depth chart just use the right stick to change packages and use the right bumper to sub in or out.

Your right, but it's useless because there are no passing plays from that formation only three runs. Without the threat of a pass, it's a loss every time from that formation

[Redcapedwonder]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

I run the wildcat sometimes with the Dolphins. Last year I had much more success with it. This year, you have to give it. I rarely keep it with Ronnie Brown, I usually give it to Ricky and it's a nice gain. I've noticed the trigger man does start off slower and it's never a gain.

[Sort of Irish]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

Your right, but it's useless because there are no passing plays from that formation only three runs. Without the threat of a pass, it's a loss every time from that formation

Ah, okay, yeah I'm not familiar with the Eagles playbook so I wasn't aware.

[InSainn]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

The problem is that last year it was being exploited so naturally instead of fixing the real issue EA just added in a hitch at the snap so the defense would have time to react and ever since it has rendered the wildcat useless. I was hoping the hitch would be gone this year but no such luck.

[Arronwy]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

Your right, but it's useless because there are no passing plays from that formation only three runs. Without the threat of a pass, it's a loss every time from that formation

Here is a tip for Wildcat if you play eagles. Do a manual sub by clicking the R1(for ps3) when on the wildcat menu. Put Ingram at where Jackson is, Put jackson where maclin is, and put vick at where Kolb is(if he is not already there). You will probably have to spend a timeout setting this up or partially set it up and come back to it later. The only useful play is the sweep, with Jackson's speed, agi, acc, and elusiveness it is pretty much an automatic touchdown unless a defender blows by the tight end. The counter and slash is pointless since for some reason it seems like it takes an extra 10 yards to get up to full speed for the person at QB.

[woodjer]

Re: Is the Wildcat stuck in mud?

I run the wildcat sometimes with the Dolphins. Last year I had much more success with it. This year, you have to give it. I rarely keep it with Ronnie Brown, I usually give it to Ricky and it's a nice gain. I've noticed the trigger man does start off slower and it's never a gain.

Now that I read this again, I think you're onto something. Maybe the trigger man is always coded to hand off or fake a hand off. That's fine and good on a play where it's supposed to happen but in the 49ers playbook, there isn't one. It seems like Gore waits to hand off and then runs rather than just running. In other words, it's either a bug or lazy programming...