which attributes most important for o-linemen?

[billsmetalbooze]

between Strength, Awareness, Impact Blocking, Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, Pass Block Footwork...

it makes my head swim trying to compare players. i used to think i wanted a guard or tackle with a high strength and Awareness, but now...

anyone test which attributes are the most important? and don't say all, because unless i'm doing some cheese trade for 98 OVR player, most lineman have ups and downs across all these ratings.

thanks in advance.

[maltliquor84]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

It depends on the position from what I can tell. If you run a lot up the middle I think that str, run block and run strength are most important. If you run to the outside I think it's more important for the pulling guard to be a bit faster and have better run block footwork and impact blocking. Tackles on the other hand need to be strong but also need good run and pass blocking strength AND footwork because they match up against quicker DE with power moves and finesse moves.

Basically just sign guys that fit your style of play the best, regardless of their overall.

[guaps]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

between Strength, Awareness, Impact Blocking, Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, Pass Block Footwork...

it makes my head swim trying to compare players. i used to think i wanted a guard or tackle with a high strength and Awareness, but now...

anyone test which attributes are the most important? and don't say all, because unless i'm doing some cheese trade for 98 OVR player, most lineman have ups and downs across all these ratings.

thanks in advance.

If you're playing these four: Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, Pass Block Footwork, and if you like to run screens or pull your guard then Impact Block, which apparently is how well a player blocks in the open field.

If you're simming you just need these two: Run Block, Pass Block

[billsmetalbooze]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

If you're playing these four: Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, Pass Block Footwork, and if you like to run screens or pull your guard then Impact Block, which apparently is how well a player blocks in the open field.

If you're simming you just need these two: Run Block, Pass Block

thanks.

what was/is confusing me is that how does "Strength" impact a lineman's play vs. his Run Block Strength?

is it a combination? what if a guy has 98 strength but only 82 Run Block Strength?

or what if he has 82 Strength vs. 98 RUn Block Strength?

what's the diff?

i guess i could edit some players and run some tests in practice. might just do that but i know how much some people here love testing so i didn't want to deny them that fun.

thanks.

[tomriddle]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

imnho..

PBS and RBS

pass block strength
and
run block strength

[lewis584]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

^^^ I'd have to agree

Certainly no point in having good footwork if you're going to simply get run over because you've not got the strength.

[actuallyrealisticmadden] You could also argue that strength is more natural so, for a rookie it's more important. Footwork can be learned over time through experience [/actuallyrealisticmadden]

[guaps]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

thanks.

what was/is confusing me is that how does "Strength" impact a lineman's play vs. his Run Block Strength?

is it a combination? what if a guy has 98 strength but only 82 Run Block Strength?

or what if he has 82 Strength vs. 98 RUn Block Strength?

what's the diff?

i guess i could edit some players and run some tests in practice. might just do that but i know how much some people here love testing so i didn't want to deny them that fun.

thanks.

I don't know for sure what strength means in Madden, but in NHL strength functions as a modifier that gives the extra power in shots and both when hitting and resisting hits. If that is the case in Madden you should go for a o-lineman with high blocking strength over regular strength anytime.

[TomBrady]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

Tackle: Pass block
Guard: Run block/Combination of both
Center: Run block

[guaps]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

^^^ I'd have to agree

Certainly no point in having good footwork if you're going to simply get run over because you've not got the strength.

[actuallyrealisticmadden] You could also argue that strength is more natural so, for a rookie it's more important. Footwork can be learned over time through experience [/actuallyrealisticmadden]

Unfortunately Madden doesn't work that way. Pass Block Strength ratings counters Power Move ratings, while Pass Block Footwork counters Fitness Move ratings.

For run blocking the Run Blocking Strength determines how well a o-lineman can contain a defender, while Run Blocking Footwork determines if he can push/move him when locked in a blocking animation.

However, pushing/moving interacting blockers doesn't really work without a proper physics engine, which is why a defender with a 99 strength and power move rating still can't Bull Rush or collapse the pocket. All defenders basically have to use swim moves to shred the blocks. That is why defenders with a high block shedding rating, like Suh, are so effective in Madden 11.

[lewis584]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

Unfortunately Madden doesn't work that way. Pass Block Strength ratings counters Power Move ratings, while Pass Block Footwork counters Fitness Move ratings.

For run blocking the Run Blocking Strength determines how well a o-lineman can contain a defender, while Run Blocking Footwork determines if he can push/move him when locked in a blocking animation.

However, pushing/moving interacting blockers doesn't really work without a proper physics engine, which is why a defender with a 99 strength and power move rating still can't Bull Rush or collapse the pocket. All defenders basically have to use swim moves to shred the blocks. That is why defenders with a high block shedding rating, like Suh, are so effective in Madden 11.

Nice post, I'll bare this in mind in future. Cheers

[billsmetalbooze]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

Unfortunately Madden doesn't work that way. Pass Block Strength ratings counters Power Move ratings, while Pass Block Footwork counters Fitness Move ratings.

For run blocking the Run Blocking Strength determines how well a o-lineman can contain a defender, while Run Blocking Footwork determines if he can push/move him when locked in a blocking animation.

However, pushing/moving interacting blockers doesn't really work without a proper physics engine, which is why a defender with a 99 strength and power move rating still can't Bull Rush or collapse the pocket. All defenders basically have to use swim moves to shred the blocks. That is why defenders with a high block shedding rating, like Suh, are so effective in Madden 11.

this is excellent to know. thanks.

still, does anyone know what the regular Strength rating does?

[raguel]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

What I want to know is: what attribute determines whether or not a linemen gets beat on twists and such, because I've had ovr 90+ get beat on a regular basis on twists and zone blitzes (dl drops back in coverage, lb/db blitzes, ol stays focused on dl and lets lb/db sack qb)

[2SiQ2Quit]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

I have always been more of a fan of the "power house lineman" huge strong lineman. I dont know something about coming to the line and just looking and monsters i love seeing lol

[cheapargentina]

Re: which attributes most important for o-linemen?

What I want to know is: what attribute determines whether or not a linemen gets beat on twists and such, because I've had ovr 90+ get beat on a regular basis on twists and zone blitzes (dl drops back in coverage, lb/db blitzes, ol stays focused on dl and lets lb/db sack qb)

if ur talking about stunts then it would be awr