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  • JVM
    Banned
    • Jul 2010
    • 725

    #1

    Is this because of the new patch?

    I started my 17th season with the new patch and saw the most unrealistic stat ever: Rookie QB 21 years old, rated 84, THP 98, THA 52, in first game of season throws for 431 yards (27-34), 5 TDs, QB rating of 158.3 and this was not against my team. Season stats for this amazing rookie: 3407 yards! I simmed the season after that first game to see what he would do.

    Could this be because of the new patch?
  • adembroski
    49ers
    • Jul 2002
    • 5829

    #2
    Re: Is this because of the new patch?

    Originally posted by JVM
    I started my 17th season with the new patch and saw the most unrealistic stat ever: Rookie QB 21 years old, rated 84, THP 98, THA 52, in first game of season throws for 431 yards (27-34), 5 TDs, QB rating of 158.3 and this was not against my team. Season stats for this amazing rookie: 3407 yards! I simmed the season after that first game to see what he would do.

    Could this be because of the new patch?
    You're leaving out a lot of critical information.

    What were the rest of his stats for the season? Anyone can blow up for one game, and your season yardage total does not seem unreasonable for an 84 rated QB with a huge arm, especially when you consider that if you take away the first game total, he only had 2,976 in 15 games (198.4 YPG).

    Also, what's his awareness? If he's a pure pocket passer with an accuracy that low, his awareness must be fairly decent, which will lead to decent numbers in the sim engine.
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    • JVM
      Banned
      • Jul 2010
      • 725

      #3
      Re: Is this because of the new patch?

      Originally posted by adembroski
      You're leaving out a lot of critical information.

      What were the rest of his stats for the season? Anyone can blow up for one game, and your season yardage total does not seem unreasonable for an 84 rated QB with a huge arm, especially when you consider that if you take away the first game total, he only had 2,976 in 15 games (198.4 YPG).

      Also, what's his awareness? If he's a pure pocket passer with an accuracy that low, his awareness must be fairly decent, which will lead to decent numbers in the sim engine.
      I don't recall his awareness but he is rated only 84. He has a strong arm but his accuracy rating is 52.

      Do you know of any Rookie QB at 21 throwing for over 3000 yards in his first season? Has it ever happened in the NFL? What has Manning or Brady done? By the way, this rookie QB is on a terrible team!

      Let me say this, no rookie QB in 16 seasons has ever thrown for over 400 yards in A Game in my franchise--and I've had higher rated rookie QBs with 98 THP and other guys with much higher accuracy ratings at the draft.

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      • Golds
        Rookie
        • May 2007
        • 155

        #4
        Re: Is this because of the new patch?

        Peyton Manning Rookie Season: most completions (326), attempts (575), and yards (3,739). He also threw for 26 TDs, breaking Charlie Conerly's 50-year-old mark. Manning was one of the top QBs in the NFL, leading the AFC in passing yards and attempts.

        Dan Marino: Didn't start for the Dolphins until the sixth game of the season. His debut, against the Bills: he threw for 322 yards and 3 TDs in a close OT loss. He then led the Dolphins to the playoffs, in the process becoming the first rookie QB to lead a conference in passing. He also set a rookie record with a 96 passer rating, and became the first rookie QB to start in the Pro Bowl.

        Looks like whatever team drafted him found the next superstar quarterback.
        Last edited by Golds; 12-15-2010, 11:52 AM.

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        • JVM
          Banned
          • Jul 2010
          • 725

          #5
          Re: Is this because of the new patch?

          Originally posted by Golds
          Peyton Manning Rookie Season: most completions (326), attempts (575), and yards (3,739). He also threw for 26 TDs, breaking Charlie Conerly's 50-year-old mark. Manning was one of the top QBs in the NFL, leading the AFC in passing yards and attempts.

          Dan Marino: Didn't start for the Dolphins until the sixth game of the season. His debut, against the Bills: he threw for 322 yards and 3 TDs in a close OT loss. He then led the Dolphins to the playoffs, in the process becoming the first rookie QB to lead a conference in passing. He also set a rookie record with a 96 passer rating, and became the first rookie QB to start in the Pro Bowl.

          Looks like whatever team drafted him found the next superstar quarterback.
          Do you really believe that a Peyton Manning would be rated 52 accuracy at the draft?

          This guy had over 3000 yards with 499 attempts--better than Manning. Plus, Manning was not 21 and he had 28 Int and this guy rated 52 accuracy had 12 Int. And you believe this? A player 21 rated 52 accuracy has that kind of season makes sense to you?

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          • JVM
            Banned
            • Jul 2010
            • 725

            #6
            Re: Is this because of the new patch?

            Forgot to add this "super QB" did not make the Pro Bowl.

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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #7
              Re: Is this because of the new patch?

              It's a video game of football, nothing more than that.

              Matt Ryan also had 3000yds passing in his rookie season a few yrs ago, but I don't look over 16 seasons of a video football game to see if someone else can duplicate Ryan's numbers.

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              • Senator Palmer
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 3314

                #8
                Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                And Matt Ryan didn't make the Pro Bowl, either. If the guy is on a terrible team, then you can kinda expect that.

                Are you getting hung up over the Qb's age or the fact that he's doing this with 52 tha? Like adembroski mentioned, what was his awareness and what did the rest of his throwing ratings look like?

                And I wouldn't be too hung up on the age, either. If recent history has told us anything, it's that young QBs can come in and have success. High school passing games are more complex, summer passing camps are popping up everywhere -- all of this has accelerated the learning curve for young passers.

                Either way, it doesn't seem like that huge of a deal, or even that unprecedented. I think that one guy coming out of nowhere and lighting it up is pretty cool, because you never know when the next superstar will emerge.
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                • jmurphy31
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2803

                  #9
                  Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                  First, Congrats on playing 17 seasons...I have played 5 and I thought that was a lot. I dont see too much wrong with those stats, especially if you took out the first game.

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                  • JVM
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 725

                    #10
                    Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                    I don't have the rest of his stats at the moment--but a 52 accuracy rating is what you all overlook and toss aside. There is no QB with a 52 throwing accuracy (THA) that can match Manning, Brady, Ryan, or even Vince Young in their rookie year.

                    You guys think THA doesn't mean anything? If you do, I say the entire game makes no sense.

                    Yup, it's only a video game, a video game that is seriously flawed.

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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #11
                      Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                      And all because of one player over 16 seasons has a anomaly?

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                      • kpkpkp
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1733

                        #12
                        Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                        Can u PM me the name of the rookie QB? Or put it in here as a hidden spoiler?

                        I wanna draft him, lol.

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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #13
                          Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                          I'm so confused. Doesn't every QB have THREE THA ratings? What's his SAC, MAC, and DAC ratings?
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                          • JVM
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 725

                            #14
                            Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            And all because of one player over 16 seasons has a anomaly?
                            It is not because of one player--there are lots and lots of abnormalities. Haven't you noticed size and weight have practically no bearing on strength and speed? How about the CPUs players regardless of ratings who suddenly get 99 acceleration? How about the player I traded to the CPU with 66 speed and 68 acceleration who next year has 75 speed and 99 acceleration? Please, I could write a book about all the nonsense seen in this game.

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                            • JVM
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 725

                              #15
                              Re: Is this because of the new patch?

                              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                              I'm so confused. Doesn't every QB have THREE THA ratings? What's his SAC, MAC, and DAC ratings?
                              Don't those ratings provide THA? I am talking rookie QB who has no progression.

                              I can tell you his SAC and MAC are lower than 85 and DAC lower than 70. His THA is 52.

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