Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

[ambizytl]

When changing teams to a 3-4 defense in Coaching Schemes, does it mess up their play calling since their playbook is probably 4-3 based?

I am controlling all the teams but only playing for one team.

[Jarodd21]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

No but it messes up when you sim games. All the defensive stats will come out like that team runs a 3-4 even though some of them teams run 4-3. They messed that up this year. On 10 you can manually go to each team and put 3-4 or 4-3 for each team depending on what they run. On this one every team will be either 3-4 or 4-3. Hope they fix that on 12..

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

No but it messes up when you sim games. All the defensive stats will come out like that team runs a 3-4 even though some of them teams run 4-3. They messed that up this year. On 10 you can manually go to each team and put 3-4 or 4-3 for each team depending on what they run. On this one every team will be either 3-4 or 4-3. Hope they fix that on 12..

I only changed teams that are 3-4 and that's how it looks, no problem. All teams do not have to be 3-4 or 4-3 if done correctly. After changing a team to 3-4, back out of that screen and do the next team, and save it when completed.

As I see it, the 3-4 teams are using a 4-3 playbook and that's what concerns me. So the issue seems to be a problem only when simming, unless there was a way to change playbooks as with the PC version. Would be nice if there was an editor for this game.

[mjhyankees]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

Can you change the playbook each team uses? When I had a chise (one team) and changed to a 3-4, I just changed my D playbook to use say, the dolphins so I had a 3-4 playbook....don't know if you can save that though for all teams.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

Can you change the playbook each team uses? When I had a chise (one team) and changed to a 3-4, I just changed my D playbook to use say, the dolphins so I had a 3-4 playbook....don't know if you can save that though for all teams.

That's the problem, saving for all teams. You could do that with MVP08 PC version (football-freaks mod) using an editor.

Maybe worth a try is starting a game you are not playing and change the playbook, click on quit to sim the game and then save your franchise. The question at this point is will the playbook change remain? Probably not, but I will give it a go and see what happens.

I don't know why Madden got all those 3-4 teams wrong.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

I tried playing the game and changing the Dolphins playbook to Pittsburgh's playbook, which worked for the game but did not save. I then played as the Dolphins with their own playbook and it did show 3-4. Thus, it seems that changing 4-3 teams to 3-4 works even though the playbook remains team specific.

[Patscanes]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

I have a 32 team offline franchise and switched the correct teams that use 3-4 to a 3-4. When I play against them I see them using it. Not sure about sim stats though...all of the stats for every team ( I only play every game with my Pats) are pretty equal. No more guys with 30 tackles midway and on a different team guys have 90. There all pretty close

[Palo20]

The coaching changes only affect simmed games. If you change the Bears to 3-4, they will sim games using the 3-4.

If you play the Bears, they will use Lovie Smith's playbook which is a 4-3.

[PGaither84]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

In my opinion, when it comes to Madden NFL, the 3-4 is still very much a formality. the game "doesn't work right" when you try to use the 3-4. teams play better when you sim with the 4-3 style linemen progress/regress better when you sim with the 4-3, draft picks and OVR ratings are calculated by 4-3 pay styles, animations that play out and moves used by the D-Line don't respect the 3-4... so on and so forth.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

The coaching changes only affect simmed games. If you change the Bears to 3-4, they will sim games using the 3-4.

If you play the Bears, they will use Lovie Smith's playbook which is a 4-3.

If you change the Bears to a 3-4 defense and play against them, they will use Bears playbook but play a 3-4 defense. I changed Dolphins to 3-4 and played them with their Dolphins playbook, and the Dolphins played a 3-4. Thus, I would expect the same thing with Bears or any other 4-3 team.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

In my opinion, when it comes to Madden NFL, the 3-4 is still very much a formality. the game "doesn't work right" when you try to use the 3-4. teams play better when you sim with the 4-3 style linemen progress/regress better when you sim with the 4-3, draft picks and OVR ratings are calculated by 4-3 pay styles, animations that play out and moves used by the D-Line don't respect the 3-4... so on and so forth.

Are you talking about just simming or including playing the game as well?

[Palo20]

If you change the Bears to a 3-4 defense and play against them, they will use Bears playbook but play a 3-4 defense. I changed Dolphins to 3-4 and played them with their Dolphins playbook, and the Dolphins played a 3-4. Thus, I would expect the same thing with Bears or any other 4-3 team.

That doesn't make sense. First off, the Dolphins are a 3-4 team so when you face a team using their playbook, they will use the 3-4.

If you face a team using Lovie Smith's playbook, they will not be playing the 3-4. There are no 3-4 sets in his playbook.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

That doesn't make sense. First off, the Dolphins are a 3-4 team so when you face a team using their playbook, they will use the 3-4.

If you face a team using Lovie Smith's playbook, they will not be playing the 3-4. There are no 3-4 sets in his playbook.

I am telling you that Dolphins changed to 3-4 play the 3-4 with Dolphins playbook--and Dolphins are 4-3 by default. Thus, why wouldn't the same thing occur with the Bears? You could change the Bears to a 3-4 and they will play a 3-4 with Bears playbook. Now I wouldn't change the Bears because they are not 3-4 in real football, but the Dolphins along with some other teams are 3-4 and not the 4-3 in Madden.

[Palo20]

I am telling you that Dolphins changed to 3-4 play the 3-4 with Dolphins playbook--and Dolphins are 4-3 by default. Thus, why wouldn't the same thing occur with the Bears? You could change the Bears to a 3-4 and they will play a 3-4 with Bears playbook. Now I wouldn't change the Bears because they are not 3-4 in real football, but the Dolphins along with some other teams are 3-4 and not the 4-3 in Madden.

Dolphins default is a 3-4 playbook, just like real life.

[ambizytl]

Re: Changing teams to a 3-4 defense

Dolphins default is a 3-4 playbook, just like real life.

I just started another franchise--new one--and Dolphins defensive coaching scheme is....4-3 by default.