Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defensiv

[booker21]

Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defensive ends. Looking at my franchise stats it is evidenced by Jason Jones leading the league in sacks with 18. I believe in one game a top DT sacked me five times and don’t remember a game with a DE getting more than two. Ends tend to get the QB if they run outside of the pocket but the tackles collapse the pocket. Simulations favor the ends as they should in sacks.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/08/26/madden-nfl-12-general-impressions

SUCKS!

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

I've been watching with caution through the development cycle, hoping this would be fixed. Not ready to throw the towel in until I get a hold of the game, but it's sounding like the same old issue to me.

This is why I think the "jump the snap" feature should make a return, because for whatever reason, they have never been able to program the ends -- especially the right ends, to work free and get a sack after his first move. If the first move doesn't work, more times than not the DEs and OTs just get into a hand fighting duel, and they don't seem to fire off the ball with any extra fervor when I use the "pass" line adjustment vs. NCAA where the line tries to get off on the ball. At least with jump the snap, there's a chance for a defensive end to get a quick win animation and shed the offensive tackle.

Edit: speaking from an All-Madden POV.

[XI CMURDER IX]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

I have been racking up sacks with Mario and Watt, no problem here with DT sacks. It was a problem on NCAA though. With the 4-2-5 defense.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

So basically the same problem that is in NCAA 12 is in Madden 12. DE's don't generate a pass rush. Instead the DT's generates all the pass rush. That is backwards.

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

I have been racking up sacks with Mario and Watt, no problem here with DT sacks. It was a problem on NCAA though. With the 4-2-5 defense.

What level are you playing on, and are you user controlling them, if you don't mind my asking?

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

So basically the same problem that is in NCAA 12 is in Madden 12. DE's don't generate a pass rush. Instead the DT's generates all the pass rush. That is backwards.

I haven't had that problem. Most of my pressure has come from the outside thus far and with the slider cranked up, it comes from everywhere nonstop...lol. Also, user controlled rush is much better regardless of where you are trying to bring it from IMO (All Pro difficulty-messing around with various pass rush settings for both me and AI).

[XI CMURDER IX]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

What level are you playing on, and are you user controlling them, if you don't mind my asking?

I'm playing on all-pro, and this is my fifth game so far. I always control the linebacker, so no I am not. For what it is worth, the Texans do have some crap defensive tackles though. Haha!

[Ramminyou]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

This has definitely been a problem for me in my NCAA 12 Coach Mode dynasty. My DTs are usually among the league leaders in sacks because: they are typically the only ones with a successful pass rush, and they each get about one sack a game just from busted screen plays. It really makes me not even care to recruit pass rushing DEs, since they won't have much of an impact.

[SteelerSpartan]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe



Wow, great weapons like Woodley Harrison,Ware, and Freeney are getting the shaft yet again

This is what ticks people off about this game......because year in and year out, real life weapons/tactics are crap in this game.....you have to cheese it up and do "Madden" strategies to be successful

If this is true this instantly drops a .5 from my overall score

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

I'm playing on all-pro, and this is my fifth game so far. I always control the linebacker, so no I am not. For what it is worth, the Texans do have some crap defensive tackles though. Haha!

If you are able to get pressure with Watt and Williams, that is encouraging.

If Pasta's DT was Jason Jones then more than likely that means he's playing with the Titans. Man for man, their ends aren't the greatest, although I would expect more production out of Derrick Morgan; that is if he was even a starter in Pasta's franchise.

[bingo911]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

I'm playing as the pats and my LE, Shaun Ellis gets 2-3 sacks a game if I pressure with fat Albert.

[bkrich83]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

Just played vs. Cleveland. Running the Chargers 3-4 most of my pressure came of the Edge.

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defensive ends. Looking at my franchise stats it is evidenced by Jason Jones leading the league in sacks with 18. I believe in one game a top DT sacked me five times and don’t remember a game with a DE getting more than two. Ends tend to get the QB if they run outside of the pocket but the tackles collapse the pocket. Simulations favor the ends as they should in sacks.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/08/26/madden-nfl-12-general-impressions

SUCKS!

Have you actually played the game or are you just going by what someone else said? I get way more sacks with my ends than dt and I user my SS. RE Jabaal Sheard had like 16 sacks, LE Mitchell had around 12 or so sacks while neither of my dts had more than 7. And that has been around the same for both seasons I have played. Same for CPU teams.

[Senator Palmer]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

Just from this very small sample from the people who have actually played the game, pressure off the the edge is a real part of the game this year. Good to know.

Still wanna see for myself, but good to know you guys are have success with it...

Random thought:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm actually getting more out of the impression thread, and threads like this one -- i.e. fellow OSers who have actually played the game than any of the so-called professional reviews.

[bkrich83]

Re: Pressure from the defensive tackles has created more sacks than pass rushing defe

Just from this small sample, it looks like a pretty clear consensus from the people who have actually played the game that pressure off the the edge is a real part of the game this year. Good to know.

Still wanna see for myself, but good to know...

Random thought:
Maybe it's just me, but I'm actually getting more out of the impression thread, and threads like this one -- i.e. fellow OSers who have actually played the game than any of the so-called professional reviews.

I am in the same boat. It's like some of the reviewers didn't even play the game, or don't know what to look for.


Keep in mind, for my example, I literally have played one complete game, so obviously mine could be an anomaly..