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  • #1
    APD0290
    Pro
    • Dec 2003
    • 651

    Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


    With all this talk about the franchise mode being broken I decided to try and test a logical explanation to all this by just turning off salary cap, and I really like what I am seeing. Granted, you still will be seeing a decent amount of UDFA's in the league, but nothing that will directly impact the games or take a veterens back up position. The CPU logic as far as resigning and signing free agents seems MUCH better, and teams actually have a decent amount of depth as some positions.

    As far as free agents goes, yes there are still a decent amount of players between 70-79 overall. But nothing that I can't actually believe happening. I'm occasionally seeing a couple players 80+ but they're all fullbacks which is by all means still a little ridiculous, but let's be honest...they're fullbacks. You aren't going to win a super bowl through simmed games just from a 80 overall fullback.

    One thing I did still notice that is out of whack is the abundance of DT's in the FA pool. For whatever reason DT's evolve into a VERY deep position leading to a surplus of them in the FA pool. So you'll be seeing a decent amount of teams with 3 or more 75+ DT's, which is a great sign. Now as far as other positions go, you will not be seeing above average players in the FA pool. It's simply not possible to find a a good postion player in the FA pool after the actual off season FA signings, which is a great sign. Yes, some do still slip, but they do eventually get signed. So as far as house rules, some may need to be set, but nothing to major.

    The league seems to be evolving which is a great thing to see. Some teams have 80+ QB's as their back ups, which is an excellent sign to see. And it made me real excited when I saw that. Granted again, some teams still do have less than 70 overall backups at QB AND RB, but that's just something we're going to have to swallow and accept as that team using a 1RB system or something, who knows. I've seen weirder things happen in my day. I'm sure Tom Brady was a 62 overall backup...you just never know.

    Personally, I think this is a decent fix. Please try it out and let me know what you think. You may not be 100% satisfied with the UDFA's, which I expect, but it certainly seems a lot better. Hopefully this helps out a little, as I'm a huge realism junkie when it comes to franchise, so I know how you guys feel.

    Try it out...
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  • #2
    mavfan21
    MVP
    • Jul 2007
    • 1842

    Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


    Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

    Who is saying Franchise Mode is broken?

    I am loving it just the way it is.
    Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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    • #3
      APD0290
      Pro
      • Dec 2003
      • 651

      Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


      Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

      I am just saying that this helps out the CPU logic at the expense of the user not knowing how much cap room he has. It's playable, just slightly ridiculous at times.
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      • #4
        Armor and Sword
        The Lama
        • Sep 2010
        • 21941

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        Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

        Has anyone else tried this. I would be very curious if this actually is a viable workaround.
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        • #5
          ATLDirty
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          • Jun 2010
          • 43

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          Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

          Originally posted by Armor & Sword
          Has anyone else tried this. I would be very curious if this actually is a viable workaround.

          I'm curious too. Anyone else do this?

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          • #6
            therockstar2005
            Rookie
            • Aug 2007
            • 330

            Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


            Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

            Trying this now, only simming games, but just simmed the whole season, and at least at first glance, I can say that teams are signing guys during the actual season (not during preseason) - this is something that I just flat out haven't seen during my main franchise w/ salary cap on. By the end of the year, the highest free agent in the pool was rated 77.

            The teams were also signing relatively intelligently. Ex - in week 3, the Bills lost Terrence McGee for the year, and then signed Kelvin Hayden. Not always seeing this, but it is there. Teams are also releasing players and picking up new ones. Also, some of the bigger name free agents are signing deals worth more than 850k (Bryant McKinnie went in week 6 to the Steelers for $7.19 Mil).

            Will post more shortly after offseason is complete.
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            • #7
              therockstar2005
              Rookie
              • Aug 2007
              • 330

              Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


              Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

              Ok, just got through simming the whole offseason (which may or may not effect your results) - Top rated free agent is Colin Cole (76). I'm seeing a lot of what APD is talking about. Again, only went through one season, so no promises, and the preseason ratings are all out of whack b/c of the rookies (which I do like, btw), but I'm not seeing free agency filled with a bunch of 80s and high 70s. Teams are keeping their backups, and even signing veteran help (poor Lions, for whatever reason Stafford didn't progress and they brought in Hasselbeck).

              I'll sim to the beginning of the regular season and see what happens when the cuts are made.
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              • #8
                therockstar2005
                Rookie
                • Aug 2007
                • 330

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                Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                Ok, last post on this for a while. In looking at it, (and keep in mind I haven't gotten a franchise with the salary cap to year 2 yet), it looks "normal" to me - in that there are some undrafted rookies, but it's not uniform for all of the teams. There are still teams that carry 3 QBs with over 70 ovr, and the same goes for running backs. It does seem like without the salary cap, teams aren't afraid to sign players to longer term deals and to keep veterans on the team. There are still undrafted free agents on there, but it doesn't seem as prevalent so as there isn't depth to the teams.

                Initial verdict: possible work around. Obviously, if "realism" is your goal, you'll have to exercise self-restraint, but you would anyway if you find a bunch of 80-something free agents left sitting around. Definitely seems better than what supposedly happened before.
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                • #9
                  APD0290
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 651

                  Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                  Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                  Thank you for actually giving this a try. It's not by any means a perfect fix but I do feel that it helps the CPU logic in setting up a more competitive franchise mode. Teams actually seem to have a desire to fill all the spots needed to make an in depth team.

                  All you really need is to just track your spending and you should be fine. As for me, I've started my franchise this way and don't see myself doing it any other way. Hopefully more people try this out, because I really feel like it helps a lot.
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                  • #10
                    therockstar2005
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 330

                    Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                    Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                    Yeah, like I said, I think it definitely seems to help. I'm four weeks into my Rams franchise, and I still don't think the CPU has signed any free agent. I'll probably give it a shot. My only concern would be about the CPU not letting bigger name free agents go, but again, that could be an unfounded concern (or something that happens regardless of salary cap being turned on/off). I'm not sure the CPU has enough programmed into it to really take advantage of unlimited cap room in that way.
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                    • #11
                      Liam
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 123

                      Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                      Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                      Turning the salary cap just removes all the realism from the game IMO

                      Stick to the rules of the NFL and keep it on

                      Go Redskins!

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                      • #12
                        PolkHigh33
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 233

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                        Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                        No salary cap? That's like playing football without pads ..

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                        • #13
                          Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21941

                          Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                          Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                          I may have to give this a run. I like to play 2-3 sports games at the same time.

                          I was running the thought of 32 team control through my head for days and I just feel like for me personally I would go nuts. I am playing NCAA 12 and love it. One team...no worries. The Show 11...one team. NBA 2K11...one team. And I am happy.

                          If it takes me turning off the salary cap to have a nice competitive league where all the cpu teams value their real NFL players over the UDFA issue that invades the CPU teams starting in year 2......so friggin be it.

                          That is my primary concern. As long as I don't see the CPU stacking up on UDFA vs capable veteran players all will be fine for me.

                          I have the discipline not to go out on a spending spree every year and abuse the non-cap league.

                          I look forward to seeing further posts on this viable alternative to 32 team control.
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                          • #14
                            Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21941

                            Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                            Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                            Originally posted by Liam
                            Turning the salary cap just removes all the realism from the game IMO

                            Stick to the rules of the NFL and keep it on

                            Go Redskins!

                            Actually cpu teams stacking up on UDFA rated in the 50's and letting all their good back-ups walk is unrealistic long term and ruins the balance of the league.

                            I rather try this first then have to do the 32 team control.

                            My personal preference.
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                            • #15
                              Liam
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 123

                              Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps


                              Re: Turning Salary Cap Off For Franchise Helps

                              Originally posted by Armor & Sword
                              Actually cpu teams stacking up on UDFA rated in the 50's and letting all their good back-ups walk is unrealistic long term and ruins the balance of the league.

                              I rather try this first then have to do the 32 team control.

                              My personal preference.
                              yeah i know this is a big problem. I could have sworn that I saw Cam Heyward in the Free Agent pool last night

                              hmm

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