Throwing the ball away...

[jd369]

Next year there needs to be either a separate button or something in the code that will allow me to throw the ball out of the back of the endzone. there are tons of times I wanna do that but am not able to and cannot get out of the pocket to do a legal throw away so I end up losing yards cause I get sacked.

[TNT713]

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Next year there needs to be either a separate button or something in the code that will allow me to throw the ball out of the back of the endzone. there are tons of times I wanna do that but am not able to and cannot get out of the pocket to do a legal throw away so I end up losing yards cause I get sacked.

Send a tall receiver to the end line in the end zone. When you throw the ball, tap UP on the left stick AND fire the pass. The ball will come out higher than normal and the receiver will have to leap for the catch OR it sails out of bounds without you taking a sack or penalty.

Of you can use the stick to throw the ball too low for a receiver to catch...

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[KBLover]

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Same applies to sideline routes or any route (safer, obviously, with sidelines since the ball will just go out of bounds). Heck, if I'm getting constantly pressured, I'll make sure to have a route like that going to the sideline so I can throw it really bad and it will go out of play instead of taking the penalty or sack.

Overthrow the would be receiver on the sideline and the ball will typically go out of bounds. I've accidentally learned the throw it into the ground thing like TNT mentions trying to get them to do comeback routes...so now I use it all the time LOL.

[jd369]

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Send a tall receiver to the end line in the end zone. When you throw the ball, tap UP on the left stick AND fire the pass. The ball will come out higher than normal and the receiver will have to leap for the catch OR it sails out of bounds without you taking a sack or penalty.

Of you can use the stick to throw the ball too low for a receiver to catch...

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I dont want to do that, you are wasting one of your receivers in that scenario just in case you are gonna get sacked, which makes the chances of a having successful play go down. then if you are pressured, you have to remember to choose that reciever and combo the stick. I want all my receivers to run their routes and if they are covered then I wanna be able to throw it out of the back of the endzone with one button push. Its time things got into the game that should be in the game so we dont have to make up BS workarounds for them.

[TNT713]

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I dont want to do that, you are wasting one of your receivers in that scenario just in case you are gonna get sacked, which makes the chances of a having successful play go down. then if you are pressured, you have to remember to choose that reciever and combo the stick. I want all my receivers to run their routes and if they are covered then I wanna be able to throw it out of the back of the endzone with one button push. Its time things got into the game that should be in the game so we dont have to make up BS workarounds for them.

There's a problem... You don't want to use the controls to accomplish your desired task. You want a button that is useless on 65% of the field instead. Imagine this... You're on your own 35. How will a button for throwing it through the end zone help when your QB can't reach the end zone?

Also, you're not wasting the receiver on the end line because you can actually throw it to him for a score. He'd only be wasted if he were in an area where he was not a threat. If you're close enough to have a receiver in the back of the end zone, you are close enough to throw it high.

Throwing thru the back of the end zone when there are no eligible receivers in the area is still intentional grounding. Thus, you must send a receiver to the area for it not to be grounding. A 'throw away thru end zone' function wouldn't stop the intentional grounding penalty from being called.

Lastly, you don't have to 'remember' how to activate the stick/buttons if you drill them into your instinctive muscle memory. It should simply be a 'reaction' that occurs automatically without having to 'remember' anything mentally. Knowing in your brain is useless if you don't know in your fingers.

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[jd369]

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There's a problem... You don't want to use the controls to accomplish your desired task. You want a button that is useless on 65% of the field instead. Imagine this... You're on your own 35. How will a button for throwing it through the end zone help when your QB can't reach the end zone?

Also, you're not wasting the receiver on the end line because you can actually throw it to him for a score. He'd only be wasted if he were in an area where he was not a threat. If you're close enough to have a receiver in the back of the end zone, you are close enough to throw it high.

Throwing thru the back of the end zone when there are no eligible receivers in the area is still intentional grounding. Thus, you must send a receiver to the area for it not to be grounding. A 'throw away thru end zone' function wouldn't stop the intentional grounding penalty from being called.

Lastly, you don't have to 'remember' how to activate the stick/buttons if you drill them into your instinctive muscle memory. It should simply be a 'reaction' that occurs automatically without having to 'remember' anything mentally. Knowing in your brain is useless if you don't know in your fingers.

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when have you ever seen an intentional grounding call when a qb fired it out the back of the endzone? you are wasting a reciever by sending him on a route that you know isnt gonna work just so you can try to throw one out of bounds if you need to. sending a wr on a fly route from the 15 isnt a good idea. this would be something along the lines of having the throw away button switch to "back of the endzone" when you got inside the 20 or 15. it happens nearly every single nfl game at some point so I want to be able to do it myself instead of getting sacked. maybe I wasnt clear in what I explained, but I figured football fans would know that you only throw out of the back of the endzone when you are in the red zone and no one is open.

[Big FN Deal]

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I dont want to do that, you are wasting one of your receivers in that scenario just in case you are gonna get sacked, which makes the chances of a having successful play go down. then if you are pressured, you have to remember to choose that reciever and combo the stick. I want all my receivers to run their routes and if they are covered then I wanna be able to throw it out of the back of the endzone with one button push. Its time things got into the game that should be in the game so we dont have to make up BS workarounds for them.

Well in fairness to TNT's suggestion, I don't think you need to adjust a receiver's route then. I presume you are in the redzone when trying to throw the ball out the back of the endzone so just leading the pass with "up" on the left stick should have the same result.

Lord knows, I do this all the time, unintentionally with Rex Grossman. lol

[TNT713]

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when have you ever seen an intentional grounding call when a qb fired it out the back of the endzone? you are wasting a reciever by sending him on a route that you know isnt gonna work just so you can try to throw one out of bounds if you need to. sending a wr on a fly route from the 15 isnt a good idea. this would be something along the lines of having the throw away button switch to "back of the endzone" when you got inside the 20 or 15. it happens nearly every single nfl game at some point so I want to be able to do it myself instead of getting sacked. maybe I wasnt clear in what I explained, but I figured football fans would know that you only throw out of the back of the endzone when you are in the red zone and no one is open.

I get what you're wanting, but it doesn't make sense to have a button specified for throwing it out of the end zone when you can't use it outside the 30. It would also occupy a button that could be used for something useful all over the field.

Also, you don't have to waste a receiver. Virtually any route with a vertical stem can be used from anywhere in the back of the end zone. Posts, streaks, deep ins, deep outs, hooks, fades, etc can all be used to create a receiver on the end line without sacrificing a threat.

The only thing you need to do differently is throw it high if everyone is covered. Of course if he's open, throw it for the completion.

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[Quique987987]

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There's a problem... You don't want to use the controls to accomplish your desired task. You want a button that is useless on 65% of the field instead. Imagine this... You're on your own 35. How will a button for throwing it through the end zone help when your QB can't reach the end zone?


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It'd be a lot more useful than the pitch button.

[jd369]

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its as simple as this:

outside of the 20 yard line = must be out of pocket and click R3 to throw away with no penalty

inside the 20 = clicking R3 throws out of the back of the endzone for no penalty no matter where you are in or out of the pocket

theres no need to waste another button. they can use R3 for both

[TNT713]

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outside of the 20 yard line = must be out of pocket and click R3 to throw away with no penalty

inside the 20 = clicking R3 throws out of the back of the endzone for no penalty no matter where you are in or out of the pocket

theres no need to waste another button. they can use R3 for both

Grounding is illegal even inside the red zone. I have seen the flag on a few occasions when there was no one near the pass. The conscious decision to throw the ball away shouldn't be ignored because you're in the red zone. The issue is that throwing the ball out of the end zone from the pocket is GROUNDING without and eligible receiver in the area. It's not likely to be called in real games because there's an eligible receiver in the area when the ball sails through the end zone.

Besides, there's no need to change the function of the button and ignore the rules because we can throw high to a receiver without penalty just like they do in the NFL.

No need to add a button to do what we already have buttons for.

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[jd369]

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Your argument makes no sense. When you throw it out the back theres always a player in the endzone, hence no grounding. like I said its done in nearly every game every week and you will never see a flag for it. its only done on potential scoring plays to save time if no one is open and to avoid a sack. throwing the ball to a reciver and hitting up on the stick does not guarantee the pass will go out of bounds. it can be thrown up and picked off with the same probability of it going out of bounds. there needs to a sure fire way to get rid of the ball just like in the real nfl.

[MoleDude]

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I don't think I've ever done it...but pressing the right stick gets you called for intentional grounding in the red zone? Where does the ball get thrown?

[jd369]

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I don't think I've ever done it...but pressing the right stick gets you called for intentional grounding in the red zone? Where does the ball get thrown?

it will if you are in the pocket. it will throw it off to the sideline instead of out of the endzone.

[Big FN Deal]

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it will if you are in the pocket. it will throw it off to the sideline instead of out of the endzone.

Like KBLover stated, can't you just "overthrow" an intended receiver on purpose, either to the sidelines or out the endzone without a "grounding" penalty though? I think the penalty is tied to the "throw the ball away button" but if using a button corresponding to an actual receiver but intentionally overthrowing them, resulting in throwing the ball away, shouldn't draw the penalty.

I may be wrong but even in real life when QBs throw the ball out the back of the endzone, it's deemed as there being a receiver in the area because of the limited space. For instance, a strong armed QB throwing the ball out the back of the endzone from the opponents 30 yd line, to avoid a sack with no receiver in the actual endzone, would still be called intentional grounding, right?