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  • btg74
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 21

    #1

    Just a thought...

    Not sure how many people here have played Minecraft, but recently there was a bit of a controversy surrounding the downloadable xbox 360 version that came out a bit ago.

    Many bought the game for the sole purpose of playing it splitscreen, only to find out that the feature was unavailable if you had a standard definition tv. The problem was that nowhere did it say that splitscreen only worked on high def tvs. An uproar ensued that resulted in Microsoft eventually offering full refunds to those who bought the game only for that feature and were unable to use it.

    My question is, by using this principle, could a similar outcome be possible when many people who aren't following Madden closely purchase the game solely for multiplayer offline franchises (either competitive or co-op), only to find out that it has been completely removed from the game?

    Comments? Thoughts? Or am I completely talking out of my ***?
  • berad88
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 1219

    #2
    Re: Just a thought...

    I am sure there will be people unaware about any of the features removed and I am sure they will be upset but my guess is that they are going to be a very small number compared to the people that are happy or content with the game as it is so I don't really see it causing any major issues. Do not expect to see EA giving refunds or anything like that. lol

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    • azdawgpound
      All Star
      • Nov 2009
      • 5546

      #3
      Re: Just a thought...

      yea i don't see any refunds either esp since now a days once u open the game u can only trade it for the same game. and by now most everybody knows whats in and whats not unless they don't have a cmp.

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      • AussieChiefsFan
        MVP
        • Feb 2012
        • 1401

        #4
        Re: Just a thought...

        Good point but I doubt it. Not a big enough part of the game.
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        • StanleyStutters
          Rookie
          • Jun 2012
          • 338

          #5
          Re: Just a thought...

          There will be no refunds for Madden 13 coming from EA. As you said the Minecraft refunds were given out because it was not stated that split-screen would only work on HD TVs. Madden doesn't come out for another two and a half months and we already know about several, and hopefully all, of the missing features. It will be difficult to get your money back when the info was available well in advance.

          The only way people will get their money back is if they keep the receipt and the store accepts their return, but we definitely won't see anything like the Minecraft situation.

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          • btg74
            Rookie
            • Feb 2009
            • 21

            #6
            Re: Just a thought...

            Originally posted by StanleyStutters
            There will be no refunds for Madden 13 coming from EA. As you said the Minecraft refunds were given out because it was not stated that split-screen would only work on HD TVs. Madden doesn't come out for another two and a half months and we already know about several, and hopefully all, of the missing features. It will be difficult to get your money back when the info was available well in advance.

            The only way people will get their money back is if they keep the receipt and the store accepts their return, but we definitely won't see anything like the Minecraft situation.
            While this is true, I'm sure there are many who will still get a rude surprise come August 28th. Although it is common knowledge to us, I'm sure the majority of the consumers don't follow E3 coverage and Josh Looman's twitter like we do.

            How many kids are gonna get this game and be upset that they can't do a co op franchise with their brother? How many college students are gonna get this just to find out they can't face their roommate in the super bowl at the end of a long season?

            I agree that there is pretty much no chance refunds will be given out. But I believe there is a good chance that there will enough of a backlash to become newsworthy.

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            • Broncos86
              Orange and Blue!
              • May 2009
              • 5531

              #7
              Re: Just a thought...

              The only way a refund could exist is if EA advertises multiplayer on the same console/TV. Since each Madden is technically a separate title, assumptions based off previous iterations won't hold water. For example: one couldn't demand a refund because Forza 3 didn't have something Forza 2 had. Now if Forza 3 is advertised as having that feature, but doesn't, that's a different story.

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              • TreFacTor
                MVP
                • Oct 2009
                • 1150

                #8
                Re: Just a thought...

                Originally posted by Broncos86
                The only way a refund could exist is if EA advertises multiplayer on the same console/TV. Since each Madden is technically a separate title, assumptions based off previous iterations won't hold water. For example: one couldn't demand a refund because Forza 3 didn't have something Forza 2 had. Now if Forza 3 is advertised as having that feature, but doesn't, that's a different story.
                Forza would never take out their customization. but that's one of it's stable community features, unfortunately Madden will never reach that level with it's community.
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19659

                  #9
                  Re: Just a thought...

                  The back of the box will have the methods of play available just like probably every 360 and PS3 game ever released. No room for confusion.

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                  • berad88
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1219

                    #10
                    Re: Just a thought...

                    Originally posted by TreFacTor
                    Forza would never take out their customization. but that's one of it's stable community features, unfortunately Madden will never reach that level with it's community.
                    Poor example. Customization is a much bigger part of Forza, how ever any racing fan can tell you that Forza is all customization but lacks a lot of racing elements such as flags, tire wear, proper amount of cars on track, etc.
                    At least Madden represents football more properly even though it is lacking customization.

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                    • Yeats
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1583

                      #11
                      Re: Just a thought...

                      Buyer beware, do your research, etc. and so forth. Honestly, if anyone ends up getting bent out of shape about some changes to a video game, they probably need to put the controller down and go do something relevent with their lives anyway. No sympathy here!

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                      • TreFacTor
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1150

                        #12
                        Re: Just a thought...

                        Originally posted by berad88
                        Poor example. Customization is a much bigger part of Forza, how ever any racing fan can tell you that Forza is all customization but lacks a lot of racing elements such as flags, tire wear, proper amount of cars on track, etc.
                        At least Madden represents football more properly even though it is lacking customization.
                        It's had 20 years. When will it finally get both right? And although it's getting better, EA shouldn't break their arms giving themselves a pat on the back in the area of truly or most closely representing the NFL either, or has Madden 13 already won best sports game this year?
                        Last edited by TreFacTor; 06-14-2012, 11:54 AM.
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                        • btg74
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 21

                          #13
                          Re: Just a thought...

                          Originally posted by mestevo
                          The back of the box will have the methods of play available just like probably every 360 and PS3 game ever released. No room for confusion.
                          Yes but they can easily list offline multiplayer simply because it's available in play now.

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                          • btg74
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Re: Just a thought...

                            Originally posted by Yeats
                            Buyer beware, do your research, etc. and so forth. Honestly, if anyone ends up getting bent out of shape about some changes to a video game, they probably need to put the controller down and go do something relevent with their lives anyway. No sympathy here!
                            Not everyone who buys this game follows it online for the latest news. How are they supposed to just assume multiplayer franchise has been removed? It should say somewhere on the box that multiplayer franchise is ONLY online.

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                            • StanleyStutters
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 338

                              #15
                              Re: Just a thought...

                              Originally posted by btg74
                              Not everyone who buys this game follows it online for the latest news. How are they supposed to just assume multiplayer franchise has been removed? It should say somewhere on the box that multiplayer franchise is ONLY online.
                              There's not enough room on the box for them to list everything they've added and everything that was taken away. It's up to the consumer to some research before buying a product. If it was as simple as not knowing how a feature worked anyone could return any game for any reason and just claim they didn't expect it to work like that.

                              I'm as disappointed in the missing features as anyone, especially no local multiplayer in CC, but no one will be getting a refund from EA.

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