Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

[wat3]

I thought this was illegal in football. Why is it legal in Madden? Here's what I got on Wikipedia-

In all forms of football, only players in the backfield and not on the line of scrimmage may be in motion at the time of the snap. Prior to starting the motion, all players on the offensive side must be in a set formation for a minimum of one second.

In videos' from E3, I have seen alot of TE that are on the line be set in motion, only for the Center to hike the ball while the TE is still behind the OL.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

If you are not on the line (7 must be on line) you can be in motion.
EXCEPT: if you are on line and come off line and another player goes up to line to re-make 7, then the players have to reset and not move. After reset though the player off the line can be in motion during snap.
You cannot however be going forward at snap.

If you are seeing a TE that is part of the 7 on the line move in motion and ball is snapped then yeah that is illegal

[wat3]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

If you are not on the line (7 must be on line) you can be in motion.
EXCEPT: if you are on line and come off line and another player goes up to line to re-make 7, then the players have to reset and not move. After reset though the player off the line can be in motion during snap.
You cannot however be going forward at snap.

If you are seeing a TE that is part of the 7 on the line move in motion and ball is snapped then yeah that is illegal

Yes, the TE is on the front 7. Half the time its only a 2 receiver set.

[KingNick865]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

You can be moving at the snap, however, it cannot be towards the line of scrimmage.

[Cnada]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Yes, the TE is on the front 7. Half the time its only a 2 receiver set.

Yes then he moves away from the line and one of the receivers steps up.

No problem

[speedy9386]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Can someone tell me how you do that thing where you change a reciever's direction during the play?

[wat3]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Then why is it, we don't see this happen in the NFL all the time?

[XI CMURDER IX]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

If the tight end is one of 7 on the line of scrimmage and he goes in motion one of the receivers or other tight ends off the line of scrimmage step forward and get set. As long as the motion man isn't moving forward and the player who took his spot is set then it is legal.

Then why is it, we don't see this happen in the NFL all the time?

You do see it happen in the NFL all the time. Usually if you see a tight end motion though the receivers aren't shown on screen. Also if you have ever seen a jet-sweep or the wildcat formation usually a running back or receiver go in motion.

I'm not sure what team you watch the most, but you can see it in teams that line up and run a lot of power formations. Such as the Houston, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and the sort.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Then why is it, we don't see this happen in the NFL all the time?

Can't remember watching a game and not seeing it...
Happens all the time man.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Then why is it, we don't see this happen in the NFL all the time?

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[wat3]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

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13:43

13:43 just showed a reciever in motion, then get set. Watch videos from E3 of Madden 13. You will see TE's motion, not get set...and then the ball gets snapped while the TE is behind a Guard or Tackle.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

13:43 just showed a reciever in motion, then get set. Watch videos from E3 of Madden 13. You will see TE's motion, not get set...and then the ball gets snapped while the TE is behind a Guard or Tackle.

Which video. So I dont have to look through all of them.

[wallofhate]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Im not gonna get upset at madden om this one. All it takes is people continuously getting penalties or losing games in tournaments and the outcry would be insane. You have to think in real life the reciever would generally know that the play clock is running out and speed up to get set this in madden probably would look unnatural and be another complaint also.

[kehlis]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

13:43 just showed a reciever in motion, then get set. Watch videos from E3 of Madden 13. You will see TE's motion, not get set...and then the ball gets snapped while the TE is behind a Guard or Tackle.

People are trying to help you.

At this point you need to show video of what you are talking about so we can further discuss it. Without that there is nothing to discuss because we are talking in circles.

[WFColonel56]

Re: Man in Motion while the ball is hiked.

Here is the deal guys

There must be at least 7 players on the line of scrimmage. Of the 7 (or more) players on the line of scrimmage, all except those at either end of the line are ineligible receivers.

the players on the LOS must be set for a full second before the ball is snapped.

now the players off of the LOS can be in motion when the ball is snapped. The motion man must be either parallel to or away from the line of scrimmage at the snap
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Now in madden the devs got it 98.7% correct...

In 98% of all formations in the game this is done correctly. But in a few formations it is programmed incorrectly

I remember that in an iform formation (twins I think) you can motion your TE to the outside and be able to snap it before he is set.

Is it an issue?

No

Now there are a few formations where you can motion the TE inside and snap before the outside receiver can step up and be set. But in most formations the WR does step up and get set before you can snap the ball