Backups in CCM unplayable.

[C the Lyte]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

An 83 spd hb can still be successful. You're just not turning the corners on sweeps and tosses as much.

[KingDeDeDe]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

Since some people in this topic seem to be ignoring the obvious, I'll state it clearly: I'm not looking to be the backup who immediately takes over for the veteran despite being worse. I just want to know why it's possible to even play as a backup if it's literally impossible to progress sufficiently to ever have a starting role. That's all.

[CarryTheWeight]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

It's a third string running back. A speed rating in the low 80's is actually the least of his concerns --- there are other abilities you'd need to improve to get that overall rating higher. Even if you upgraded his speed to 99 it'd be useless if he has an overall rating of 58 and has no other redeeming qualities.

Long story short: you need to focus on other abilities before going "all-in" on only one.

[tigerbothesh23]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

Speed costs 19,000 points to upgrade, which is the obvious first priority as an 83 speed running back. juke move, in contrast, costs 2,500. That means I can increase my juke by a few points per season at best, which doesn't help my overall at all.

Oh, you're just trolling. Never mind.

Of course speed costs more, how many people get that much faster once they are of the age to be in the NFL? speed isn't really a skill you can improve too much IRL. when creating a player do you get to pick what type of back you want to be?

[Brother3Wright]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

Since some people in this topic seem to be ignoring the obvious, I'll state it clearly: I'm not looking to be the backup who immediately takes over for the veteran despite being worse. I just want to know why it's possible to even play as a backup if it's literally impossible to progress sufficiently to ever have a starting role. That's all.

I get what you're saying that speed is crazy to progress but I think what people are saying is that the way to become that starter isn't purely through speed. Becoming a better rounded HB to become the starter and THEN upgrading speed is a better route.

A guy can have crazy speed but if he fumbles all the time, can't block, or isn't elusive in any other way probably won't start over a slightly slower HB that has all those other qualities.

If you just want to build purely on speed, then yes it's skewed insurmountably against you. On the other hand if you can focus on becoming a more well rounded elusive back then maybe you can earn the starting position and speed will be easier to upgrade.

[Jukeman]

Or just start an online player CCM and start automatically before they patch that.

Yea I read a tweet they were patching that.


-Juke

[CRMosier_LM]

I do practices. The problem is how ineffectual they are. 1k points over 4 preseason weeks plus every week of the season means it takes all year to increase speed from 83 to 84... and that's all I can do. That's my only improvement all year.

Stop worrying about your speed then lol. Good lord raise your other attributes up to get more playing time then if you want to waste points on speed you can do it when you have the opportunity to get more xp.

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[Jukeman]

I think his point is not being able to gain XP from games.


By default, a 3rd string RB should see more than 1 carry a game. Heck, a 3rd string DE should see a lot of snaps.

This is the NFL not college, teams build for depth rather than potential.

-Juke

[CarryTheWeight]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

Stop worrying about your speed then lol. Good lord raise your other attributes up to get more playing time then if you want to waste points on speed you can do it when you have the opportunity to get more xp.

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Exactly this --- and I echo what Brother3Wright said, you're better off trying to make yourself a "complete" speed back instead of trying to upgrade a singular category.

[Pmoney327]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

I made a QB from the Jets, came in at 3rd string, didn't get one snap in the Pre-Season.

[KingDeDeDe]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

I think his point is not being able to gain XP from games.


-Juke

In one preseason game that I didn't abuse hurry-ups and sub packages for, I had 6 carries for 35 yards. That gave me two experience points.

[CarryTheWeight]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

I think his point is not being able to gain XP from games.


-Juke

That's a tough point, especially when considering his player's position on the depth chart. In that sense, it's a bit more realistic because second and third stringers need to earn their opportunities (either through injury or whatnot). Also, earning XP has to do with meeting strict goals, so I think that plays into it as well. That's one of the downfalls of CCM --- if those goals aren't met then it's harder to progress.

[KingDeDeDe]

Re: Backups in CCM unplayable.

Exactly this --- and I echo what Brother3Wright said, you're better off trying to make yourself a "complete" speed back instead of trying to upgrade a singular category.

You don't seem to understand. This approach would give me, at maximum, +1 overall per year. This is reduced every time I actually lose in practice because of Alex Smith (roughly 1/4 of the time despite having at least 150+ yards and 1 TD per practice).