Super Jumping Defense

[unc_kobw]

I am really surprised I couldnt find anything on this. We all know about super LB's last year not letting anything being thrown over the middle. Well this year I think the entire defense is super jumping. I mainly just notice this on crossing routes and post routes though. My WR will break on a post to the side line and the CB will fall at least 6 yards behind sometimes. I aim to the outside shoulder, fire away, then it happens......speed burst by the CB to get in the path of the ball, even though he is still 5 yards under me, he jumps with an 80 inch vertical and intercepts is in a near impossible player. I played someone online today who followed me out there with a 300lb defensive end and he done the same thing. Some miraculous jump out of no where to pick me off.

I can always tell after I throw when this animation will happen. They will be running my route only 5 yards below what I am actually doing it in. I throw more INT's like this then I would if I threw it straight to a standing still defender. I have read a lot about people complaining about INT's, and this is basically the only thing I hate about this game. EA should have more players try to just swat the ball away then intercepting everthing thrown there way. I might see one swat a game, when in real life swatting or picking the ball out of the receivers hand as he is trying to pull it in, is way more common then someone jumping to the sky or jumping without looking to pick someone off.

[OpieDJC]

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I am really surprised I couldnt find anything on this. We all know about super LB's last year not letting anything being thrown over the middle. Well this year I think the entire defense is super jumping. I mainly just notice this on crossing routes and post routes though. My WR will break on a post to the side line and the CB will fall at least 6 yards behind sometimes. I aim to the outside shoulder, fire away, then it happens......speed burst by the CB to get in the path of the ball, even though he is still 5 yards under me, he jumps with an 80 inch vertical and intercepts is in a near impossible player. I played someone online today who followed me out there with a 300lb defensive end and he done the same thing. Some miraculous jump out of no where to pick me off.

I can always tell after I throw when this animation will happen. They will be running my route only 5 yards below what I am actually doing it in. I throw more INT's like this then I would if I threw it straight to a standing still defender. I have read a lot about people complaining about INT's, and this is basically the only thing I hate about this game. EA should have more players try to just swat the ball away then intercepting everthing thrown there way. I might see one swat a game, when in real life swatting or picking the ball out of the receivers hand as he is trying to pull it in, is way more common then someone jumping to the sky or jumping without looking to pick someone off.

I have noticed the same thing. I've had a couple cross the middle throws being picked by MLBs as well when theyre a solid 20yards infront of the receiver. I'm curious if QB heigh might change this?

I've somewhat combated the WR streak int by throwing balls to either their inside or outside shoulder depending on the location of the CB using the LS. I'm debating adjusting the interceptions sliders simply because 50% of the time i throw a perfect pass to Fitzgerald the CB makes a superman jump int.

[Arrow218]

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I've never seen a linebacker go into the superman animation and not make the pick. I though they were supposed to be gone.

[ggsimmonds]

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I have yet to see super human plays by the defense.
since I have yet to see video evidence that supports claims of super jumping, I have to say stop making dumb passes. Learn to play.

[OpieDJC]

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I have yet to see super human plays by the defense.
since I have yet to see video evidence that supports claims of super jumping, I have to say stop making dumb passes. Learn to play.

I'm half tempted to leave the int sliders as is and record some picks I think are ugly. Granted i'll be recording them with my phone so the picture quality might be what you'd expect from a toaster.

[unc_kobw]

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I have yet to see super human plays by the defense.
since I have yet to see video evidence that supports claims of super jumping, I have to say stop making dumb passes. Learn to play.

Learn to play? I bet I would beat you right now if we played. Obviously you cant read, if I say someone is 5-8 yards ahead of someone and I throw him the ball still trying to lead him and I get picked off, that isnt a dumb pass. That is a miraculous play by the defender. And if you would read around a little bit, you would see other people mention about it in numerous threads, Im just the first one to make a thread just about it.

[unc_kobw]

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I'm half tempted to leave the int sliders as is and record some picks I think are ugly. Granted i'll be recording them with my phone so the picture quality might be what you'd expect from a toaster.

I will probably do the same thing if people think its just you playing. This is probably my favorite football game to date, at least my most played one at the rate Im going right now, and Ive probably not said anything negative about it yet. Even though I do wish we could take our own rosters into CC and that we could import draft classes. But other than that, the interceptions and the amount of them are the only thing I think needs fixed. If a ball is thrown directly at my defender it will bounce off his brick hands, but if hes jumping/diving 5 ft in the air one-handed, it is for sure caught.

[IWWROCKS]

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I dont have a problem with super jumpy defenders, mine is with cat like refleces, super stretchy arm defenders.

I'll have a guy in space, throw to him, and the LB will reach out at full stretch and pick it. Often one handed. Every now and then it'd be fine, you get tremendous stretching plays. But most of the time if a defender is really having to stretch to get there, it's gonna be deflected not caught.

[kjjnesb]

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I dont have a problem with super jumpy defenders, mine is with cat like refleces, super stretchy arm defenders.

I'll have a guy in space, throw to him, and the LB will reach out at full stretch and pick it. Often one handed. Every now and then it'd be fine, you get tremendous stretching plays. But most of the time if a defender is really having to stretch to get there, it's gonna be deflected not caught.

I get this too and it seems to be a combination of super human momentum and a overall lack of aggression or fight from your receivers. Even if its a bad throw your taught from freaking high school to become a defender on a bad throw and bat the ball down but the receivers don't do it.

[unc_kobw]

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What this game needs more of is CB's trying to swat the ball down more. Dont have 20 animations on how they are going to do a jumping full body stretch to get a INT. I love when I think I have a man open down the middle of the field and right before the ball gets there a defender will dive and just swat the ball down.

Its also pretty unrealistic that these huge lineman can make the same type of acrobatic plays as the CB's and S's. I played with the Vikings the other day and Jared Allen, who yes I know is real good and pretty athletic, ran down a pass that was thrown to Mike Wallace and did a jumping diving INT.

[ggsimmonds]

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Learn to play? I bet I would beat you right now if we played. Obviously you cant read, if I say someone is 5-8 yards ahead of someone and I throw him the ball still trying to lead him and I get picked off, that isnt a dumb pass. That is a miraculous play by the defender. And if you would read around a little bit, you would see other people mention about it in numerous threads, Im just the first one to make a thread just about it.

Oh we have a sensitive one. I know how to read, do you? I will say it again but this time I will make it easier for you to understand.

I have yet to see anything like "super jumping defense" (i play on all-madden Jarrod's black set)

I can only go by my experience. I have not seen anything that supports "super jumping" defenses.

Until I see video of such plays, I do not believe the game has super jumping defenses.

Because of that, I am left to conclude that the problem is with you.
Could I be wrong? Sure, but the only way to prove me wrong is by showing video of "super jumping defense"

It is nothing against you. If I tell you that Peterson did a cartwheel to break a tackle and you have never experienced that wouldn't you need video proof before you believe me?

[unc_kobw]

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Oh we have a sensitive one. I know how to read, do you? I will say it again but this time I will make it easier for you to understand.

I have yet to see anything like "super jumping defense" (i play on all-madden Jarrod's black set)

I can only go by my experience. I have not seen anything that supports "super jumping" defenses.

Until I see video of such plays, I do not believe the game has super jumping defenses.

Because of that, I am left to conclude that the problem is with you.
Could I be wrong? Sure, but the only way to prove me wrong is by showing video of "super jumping defense"

It is nothing against you. If I tell you that Peterson did a cartwheel to break a tackle and you have never experienced that wouldn't you need video proof before you believe me?

Actually with this physics system, I probably would believe you because I have seen some crazy stuff myself.

And Im waiting for someone to post a video, if they dont then I will tonight.

[unc_kobw]

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And I think some of the jumping INT are the QBs fault for under throwing an open WR so bad.

[roadman]

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I saw a DL jump up and bat down a ball, haven't seen that in Madden before, but I haven't seen anything too crazy like in years past.

[thundergatti]

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I've seen this. Its a bummer.


I surmise that its something that the developers stitched together because passing had been getting too easy/ difficult to defend. Kind of taking the easy way out.

I'd like it better if passing was more challenging, yet not necessarily resulting in so many interceptions. If we're stuck with these superjumpers, a lot of which I find are impossible to predict, I'd at least like it if they made it so that there were more passes off the defenders finger tips. That way, at least the entire drive isn't ruined, and the interception figures could be kept in check.