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  • NYM72382
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 115

    #1

    It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

    If you want 53 WR on you team you should be able to do that IMO. You shoudl just have to designate under depth chart for who is playing each position....I see this year they relaxed the requirments as you only need 1 of each offensive lineman and one DE etc....but really for a real example say you use pass rushing DE....But you have 6 goo OLB's and you are going to have make 3 of them at DE....why do you need any DE on your team????
  • steamboat
    Rookie
    • Dec 2004
    • 481

    #2
    Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

    Likely for simulation cpu purposes. Josh Looman said that when you fall under the position requirements on teams that it creates a stability issue in the game. On the podcast that was on here a week ago I think.

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    • NYM72382
      Banned
      • Sep 2012
      • 115

      #3
      Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

      Originally posted by steamboat
      Likely for simulation cpu purposes. Josh Looman said that when you fall under the position requirements on teams that it creates a stability issue in the game. On the podcast that was on here a week ago I think.

      Can't you just make it a requirment for CPU teams then? If a user does it and sims games then they could be penalized by poor play

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      • steamboat
        Rookie
        • Dec 2004
        • 481

        #4
        Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

        Originally posted by NYM72382
        Can't you just make it a requirment for CPU teams then? If a user does it and sims games then they could be penalized by poor play
        No, the league he was talking about was a 32 human team league online CCM. So, apparently they can't do that.

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        • Argooos
          Pro
          • Aug 2009
          • 723

          #5
          Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

          Originally posted by steamboat
          Likely for simulation cpu purposes. Josh Looman said that when you fall under the position requirements on teams that it creates a stability issue in the game. On the podcast that was on here a week ago I think.
          That's a good reason why they can't do it. It's not a good reason why they shouldn't do it.
          There are no position requirements in the NFL, so there should be none in Madden. That this is not the case means that EA has failed at some point in their coding.

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          • steamboat
            Rookie
            • Dec 2004
            • 481

            #6
            Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

            Originally posted by Argooos
            That's a good reason why they can't do it. It's not a good reason why they shouldn't do it.
            There are no position requirements in the NFL, so there should be none in Madden. That this is not the case means that EA has failed at some point in their coding.
            Brand new game, brand new coding. If they had left it at Madden 12 code and just updated it and added stuff in, maybe it would be possible. Maybe it will be possible, and its likely it will be possible in the future. I personally would never have bought the game if it was a recanned madden 12 (I got that game for free and paid ten bucks for the online pass)

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            • Big FN Deal
              Banned
              • Aug 2011
              • 5993

              #7
              Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

              I am not saying there couldn't be some tweeks done to the current system but I think this falls into Madden being a video game. Meaning there would never in real life be a team with no QB, 53 WR, etc and considering the position subs limitations, WR can't play QB, etc, I can understand the player requirements, at this point.

              So I would presume it likely has something to do with the fact that some player needs to be at every position when you play or sim a game and the position sub limitations won't allow this without the proper personnel.

              My point is this wouldn't be as simple as just taking away position requirements, other things would need to be addressed as well.

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              • NYM72382
                Banned
                • Sep 2012
                • 115

                #8
                Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                I am not saying there couldn't be some tweeks done to the current system but I think this falls into Madden being a video game. Meaning there would never in real life be a team with no QB, 53 WR, etc and considering the position subs limitations, WR can't play QB, etc, I can understand the player requirements, at this point.

                So I would presume it likely has something to do with the fact that some player needs to be at every position when you play or sim a game and the position sub limitations won't allow this without the proper personnel.

                My point is this wouldn't be as simple as just taking away position requirements, other things would need to be addressed as well.

                well they should then give you the ability to switch a players position....Mario williams went fromo a DE to LB then back to a DE. Gys switch from MLB to OLB too...Also Tebow played not only QB but RB WR and on special teams...Troy brown was a WR then started playing a lot of DB....it happens all the time. Guys switch positions and with all the hybrid defenses guys get mixed all up in the front 7! Look at a guy like justin Tuck....he lines up at DE and in the nascar package also plays in the DT position! Why wouldn't he count toward one of the DT's required if you also have 3 other DE? But no instead of keep a rookie or young guy you want to build up in another position you have to sign a crappy DT who will never play!

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                • steamboat
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 481

                  #9
                  Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                  Originally posted by NYM72382
                  well they should then give you the ability to switch a players position....Mario williams went fromo a DE to LB then back to a DE. Gys switch from MLB to OLB too...Also Tebow played not only QB but RB WR and on special teams...Troy brown was a WR then started playing a lot of DB....it happens all the time. Guys switch positions and with all the hybrid defenses guys get mixed all up in the front 7! Look at a guy like justin Tuck....he lines up at DE and in the nascar package also plays in the DT position! Why wouldn't he count toward one of the DT's required if you also have 3 other DE? But no instead of keep a rookie or young guy you want to build up in another position you have to sign a crappy DT who will never play!
                  They are working on editing. All I can say.

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                  • DerkontheOS
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3136

                    #10
                    Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                    Originally posted by NYM72382
                    If you want 53 WR on you team you should be able to do that IMO. You shoudl just have to designate under depth chart for who is playing each position....I see this year they relaxed the requirments as you only need 1 of each offensive lineman and one DE etc....but really for a real example say you use pass rushing DE....But you have 6 goo OLB's and you are going to have make 3 of them at DE....why do you need any DE on your team????
                    Dear lord nooo.... The CPU roster logic is already bad enough.

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                    • RandyBass
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1179

                      #11
                      Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                      Originally posted by NYM72382
                      well they should then give you the ability to switch a players position....
                      Hopefully they are revamping how all that works, and will unleash it along with new custom playbooks. CC mode could really use some depth in strategy in terms of personnel and game planning. New custom playbooks that allowed you to shift guys around would fit that bill, and you can kind of see that this is where the game appears to be headed, with the way player's ratings will change depending on the scheme they are in. I think I even remember some of the developers hinting that changes like this are on the way.

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                      • spyoutofthecold
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 138

                        #12
                        Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                        Well actually, the NFL limits the numbers you can wear based on your primary position. You could really only have 30 players with the same position as their primary position and that would only be RBs, OL, DL, CBs and Ss as they all have 30 number ranges.

                        The NFL will offer exceptions but you pay a fine for it and no way would they offer exceptions to 23 people on a single team.

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                        • NYM72382
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 115

                          #13
                          Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                          Originally posted by spyoutofthecold
                          Well actually, the NFL limits the numbers you can wear based on your primary position. You could really only have 30 players with the same position as their primary position and that would only be RBs, OL, DL, CBs and Ss as they all have 30 number ranges.

                          The NFL will offer exceptions but you pay a fine for it and no way would they offer exceptions to 23 people on a single team.

                          Really dude? You do realize the 53 WR thing was an over exaggerationt to emphasis a point. Not sure why you decided to take it literally...as I explained later the point is if I have 3 really good LG who all work just fine as a RG why do I have to sign a crappy RG to fill a "required" spot when i could use that spot for a young guy i want to develop or a specialization role.....obviously in real life or a video game no one will want a team of 53 WR. (WOW!!! In shock I really needed to take time to explain that)

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                          • llcmac
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 189

                            #14
                            Re: It's 2012 why is there still position requirements?

                            It would be nice at some point for all sports games to have looser positional assignments. They could have a "Recommended Position" for CPU and people who don't have the time or patience for it and then let us put them where we want to. I would love to have DL, LB, and DB rotations....it would be awesome. Not auto-subs, but real rotations. And I would love to have positions like LCB, RCB, Nickel CB, WLB, SLB, Slot WR, etc, and have it mean something.

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                            • Greencollarbaseball
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 926

                              #15
                              I am just starting my second season and I am going through some o-line changes and when I go to the depth chart set up my o-line. It will not let me play a tackle at a guard or center position. I'm not really worried about the center, but I have an 80 rated tackle that I wanted to move inside and it won't let me. I know editing would fix this but that's not my point, even without editing him I should still be able to play a tackle at guard, ratings hit or not.


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