CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

[BombshellRocks]

Did a search and couldn't find anything on this but has anyone experienced this in their CCM?

Just finished week 2 as the Cardinals and Calais Campbell has asked to negotiate his contract. He still has 5 years left making around $55 million so it's strange he would be doing so. What's even more strange is I decided to see if he would accept the default proposal of 5 years at $30 million (yearly + signing bonus) and he accepted. That's really sweet of the guy to put the team first but slightly immersion breaking.

Anyone have any similar experience with this happening in their CCM? If I ignore this will it cause any negative impact?

[SloeyEZ]

Re: CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

Did a search and couldn't find anything on this but has anyone experienced this in their CCM?

Just finished week 2 as the Cardinals and Calais Campbell has asked to negotiate his contract. He still has 5 years left making around $55 million so it's strange he would be doing so. What's even more strange is I decided to see if he would accept the default proposal of 5 years at $30 million (yearly + signing bonus) and he accepted. That's really sweet of the guy to put the team first but slightly immersion breaking.

Anyone have any similar experience with this happening in their CCM? If I ignore this will it cause any negative impact?

Not immersion breaking whatsoever, it does happen, albeit it's a major news story when it does. Knowing Looman, there are probably personality traits behind the scenes for players which make some more apt to ask to restructure in order to help the team/salary cap.

Funny, I'm just starting my new CCM as ARI also...I don't think I'll try it on him though, might save/load to see if i get same result tho...


Oh, what kind of coach are you?

[Pandetta]

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It is pretty common, however it seems to be much more common with players that just signed big deals. This leads me to believe there may have been a script in place before the contracts were entered for those players (but who knows). Ex. Drew Brees asks for a new lesser contract every time in year 1 which seems pretty unlikely with how that scenario unfolded.

[SloeyEZ]

Re: CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

It is pretty common, however it seems to be much more common with players that just signed big deals. This leads me to believe there may have been a script in place before the contracts were entered for those players (but who knows). Ex. Drew Brees asks for a new lesser contract every time in year 1 which seems pretty unlikely with how that scenario unfolded.

hmm, maybe the logic was written before they signed the contracts in real life (so they thought in-game they still had to negotiate) and only the salaries were updated without updating the logic? Yeah, sounds like a good guess Pandetta!

[thebizarrojerry]

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I thought you were limited to contract talks only with players whos contracts are expiring? It's stupid I can't open up talks with anyone

[Ueauvan]

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isnt the correct way it should work, all guaranteed from the original $55m deal not yet paid is paid this year, and then add base and new bonus for this year?

i think front office has that right, you renegotiate the contract to get more guaranteed and maybe another year or two added at the end, as a franchise youd prefer no guaranteed.

[brza37]

Re: CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

Did a search and couldn't find anything on this but has anyone experienced this in their CCM?

Just finished week 2 as the Cardinals and Calais Campbell has asked to negotiate his contract. He still has 5 years left making around $55 million so it's strange he would be doing so. What's even more strange is I decided to see if he would accept the default proposal of 5 years at $30 million (yearly + signing bonus) and he accepted. That's really sweet of the guy to put the team first but slightly immersion breaking.

Anyone have any similar experience with this happening in their CCM? If I ignore this will it cause any negative impact?

Yeah its happened to me too and is in no way realistic. Desean Jackson wanted a new deal the first week of the season even though he just signed one for 5 mill this offseason. He wanted the same five years but for over a million fewer per year.

I also noticed a bunch of stars around the league like (Matt Forte and Ray Rice) who signed new contracts this offseason irl were being signed by their CPU teams for new contracts with less money. Pretty big immersion killer and an easy way to cheat the system in online CCs by resigning your stars for cheaper and saving a ton of money. It will make commissioners of online CCs that much harder as they'll have to police these illogical resignings.

[roninho]

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Not immersion breaking whatsoever, it does happen, albeit it's a major news story when it does. Knowing Looman, there are probably personality traits behind the scenes for players which make some more apt to ask to restructure in order to help the team/salary cap.

Funny, I'm just starting my new CCM as ARI also...I don't think I'll try it on him though, might save/load to see if i get same result tho...


Oh, what kind of coach are you?

In the real world restructures happen, however there are 2 common types:
1.) The underperforming guy with a massive first round pick contract. He is basically asked to take a salary reduction or get cut. I think Gholston of the Jets and Aaron Curry accepted these reductions in real life. Calais Campbell doesn't fit that description though.
2.) The star player making mega bucks asked to restructure and take a lower amount this year to help the team stay under the cap. What most don't seem to realise is that these players don't actually end up with less money, but with either more or more guaranteed money. The help is that they agree to get the money later than the original contract (basically backloading the contract) and in return they get more or more money is guaranteed. An example of this is Richard Seymour at the raiders.

Campbell could fit this scenario, however the situation described by the op simply does not match this since Campbell is taking less money then agreed. So yeah, imo this is some form of bug or fault in programming where the player isn't supposed to take less money but does.

[SloeyEZ]

Re: CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

In the real world restructures happen, however there are 2 common types:
1.) The underperforming guy with a massive first round pick contract. He is basically asked to take a salary reduction or get cut. I think Gholston of the Jets and Aaron Curry accepted these reductions in real life. Calais Campbell doesn't fit that description though.
2.) The star player making mega bucks asked to restructure and take a lower amount this year to help the team stay under the cap. What most don't seem to realise is that these players don't actually end up with less money, but with either more or more guaranteed money. The help is that they agree to get the money later than the original contract (basically backloading the contract) and in return they get more or more money is guaranteed. An example of this is Richard Seymour at the raiders.

Campbell could fit this scenario, however the situation described by the op simply does not match this since Campbell is taking less money then agreed. So yeah, imo this is some form of bug or fault in programming where the player isn't supposed to take less money but does.

Agreed, this seems to be a bug where there is a lag somewhere between real players signing their contracts so the $$ got in the game, but not the fact that they already re-signed.

[BombshellRocks]

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Oh, what kind of coach are you?

Didn't create a coach, so that should have nothing to do with it as I'm continuing Whizenhunt's career.

In the scheme of things, this is not game ruining in the least bit just wasn't sure if this was common and if it would cause player happiness issues if I didn't restructure to keep things more realistic.

[butcher82man]

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meh i just do what the steelers do and dont negotiate during the season =)

[prey2god]

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Matt Forte asked for a new contract, but the thing is he signed a new contract like this year. Now he wants another one according to the game? How is that logical? A contract is a contract.

[D-MAC©®]

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How much of a bonus was he getting before you resigned him?
So when you resign him, did he get the bonus form the old contract, + the bonus you offered when you resigned him?
Looks to me like this player just made a bunch of guaranteed money, or he just gained a little "job security".
You're handcuffed to this player now because if you trade him, the Cap hit you'll take will be huge.

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Re: CCM: Player asking to negotiate contract so he can make $20 million less...

Did a search and couldn't find anything on this but has anyone experienced this in their CCM?

Just finished week 2 as the Cardinals and Calais Campbell has asked to negotiate his contract. He still has 5 years left making around $55 million so it's strange he would be doing so. What's even more strange is I decided to see if he would accept the default proposal of 5 years at $30 million (yearly + signing bonus) and he accepted. That's really sweet of the guy to put the team first but slightly immersion breaking.

Anyone have any similar experience with this happening in their CCM? If I ignore this will it cause any negative impact?

Roll with it. It happens... Not frequently, but it does. It doesn't mess with the immersion factor in the least. When things like that happen, I create a story in my head about it and how the player is putting the team first.

It doesn't happen often. Take advantage when it does.