How Does the PS4 Impact Future Madden Titles?

[jWILL253]

Last week, Sony announced the PlayStation 4, and while they didn't show the console itself, they did reveal the specs. There's a lot of fast memory in this thing (8GB GDDR5 RAM, to be more specific), and one thing that Madden developers complained about in the past was the lack of memory in current gen consoles, especially on the PS3.

Imagine the possibilities. We could see:

• Fully-interactive, fully-rendered sidelines
• Better character modes in the stadium crowd
• Better, complex AI (Offensive Line play could benefit the most from this)
• Better player models, with more variances in how height & weight affect gameplay
• Better detailed player & coach faces
• Full implementation of TRUE real-time physics
• Real-time presentation, a la NFL 2K5 & MLB 12 The Show
• Full implementation of TRUE physics-based locomotion

Or, EA Tiburon could just drop the ball and prove that they are as inept as some of us think they are.

What do you guys think will happen on the next generation of consoles?

EDIT: Due to Sony using a PC architecture, we could also see a return to the PC platform for Madden...

[N51_rob]

Owen Good wrote an article about this on Kotaku pretty much sums up my feelings and expectations.

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[jpdavis82]

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Owen Good wrote an article about this on Kotaku pretty much sums up my feelings and expectations.

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Nice article, I agree too
http://kotaku.com/5986555/ready-for-...-?tag=xbox-720

[tfctillidie]

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Lets not forget full 80 man rosters/practice squads.

No more deleted players from free agency.

That sort of thing also will come into play.

[MaddenSaints]

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I hope so but EA/Tiburon have been dropping the ball for ages so would not be suprised if it was the same.

[jWILL253]

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Owen Good wrote an article about this on Kotaku pretty much sums up my feelings and expectations.

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I guess I'm not nearly as cynical as Owen Good is in that article.

This console generation was more about graphics than substance; I feel like next-gen will be the opposite. Yeah, it's gonna be a case of diminishing returns at first, but maybe we'll get bigger games with more live, fleshed-out worlds.

In the case of sports gaming, it'll be more about the little things; adding the more minute details, enhancing AI, that sort of thing. I think the potential for next-gen is sky high, especially if the developers can do more with enhanced tech than just blocking used games and padding on microtransactions...

[N51_rob]

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I guess I'm not nearly as cynical as Owen Good is in that article.

This console generation was more about graphics than substance; I feel like next-gen will be the opposite. Yeah, it's gonna be a case of diminishing returns at first, but maybe we'll get bigger games with more live, fleshed-out worlds.

In the case of sports gaming, it'll be more about the little things; adding the more minute details, enhancing AI, that sort of thing. I think the potential for next-gen is sky high, especially if the developers can do more with enhanced tech than just blocking used games and padding on microtransactions...

Nothing wrong with being optiistic, but at the same time fool me once...I have high hopes for other genres of games on Gen 4 systems. I think the next Elder Scrolls game could be huge, but that is a game that will be in development for a couple of years. Sports game are usually in development for about 10 months.

IMO 10 months isn't enough time to fully understand the tech and get the most out of it. So while sports game could eventually get to the point of being what you think they could be, I'm not going to make the same mistake of paying upwards of $70 every year for games that make incremental improvements.

Hell look at CCM, that was in development for Two Years! If that is the best that we can hope for from the biggest sports game publisher out there it would be silly to think that with less time on a new system to see tremendous improvement. But to each their own and I don't want to do anything to quell your excitement. I just choose not to let sports games be the driving force of my Gen 4 system excitement.

[SageInfinite]

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This is still Tiburon we're dealing with. It would be nice to think with these new systems we'd get an amazing football game, but these guys have yet to show they can provide that. I know there are a few new pieces with the team, but they've got to show me something worth my praise. Funny thing is a couple of those things listed in the op, we should've had this generation. SMH.

[Cryolemon]

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Lets not forget full 80 man rosters/practice squads.

That's something that I would hope can be done for sure.

[cuttingteeth]

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the touch screen application will be how we kick the ball in Madden. Perhaps the touch screen also allows us to quickly choose what hot route we audible to by simply "drawing it" with our fingers. I'm not knocking it, though. These things might be cool.

I can imagine much, much better touch screen uses for other games, though. For example: Imagine Red Dead Redemption when you'd do the slow motion selecting of where you are about to rapid fire your rifle/revolver. Take that same sort of ability, and let us select points in the current defense where you want to "quick throw" to a certain spot immediately after the snap.

[Big FN Deal]

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I have some optimism for Madden or whatever the game might be called on G4 consoles because with Kolbe as Creative Director and a whole wasted console gen as a cautionary tale of what NOT to do. However, faith and hope aside, just going by the evidence up to this point, G4 Madden will do good to just accomplish what other top sports sims have this gen. When I read the OP and thought about Madden on G4, it's like "man I just hope they can create a complete NFL football game" but with regard to other sports sims that I feel are already "complete" I'm thinking "man I can't wait to see what else they are able to do".

There is plenty of optimism and hope for the potential of G4 EA football but not nearly as much enthusiasm and expectation. Some people wonder why is there such a negative following associated with Madden, it's due to all the next-gen years of unrealized potential causing confidence in the future to be replaced by pleading wishlists, like letters to Santa Claus.

That said, considering the NFL gaming community has been deprived of a true next gen NFL football game to rival the other top sports sims for going on 9 years, just about whatever they put out on G4 will be like the Eddie Murphy standup about a cracker given to somebody that's starving, lol.

[bucky60]

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Nothing wrong with being optiistic, but at the same time fool me once...I have high hopes for other genres of games on Gen 4 systems.

They have to show me before I start believing.

I think the next Elder Scrolls game could be huge, but that is a game that will be in development for a couple of years.

I went looking yesterday, but couldn't find it. Do you know if Bethesda is currently working on a new game? Elder Scrolls or some other? I've always wanted them to develop a Western in the same type of Fallout/Elder Scrolls open world.

Hell look at CCM, that was in development for Two Years! If that is the best that we can hope for from the biggest sports game publisher out there it would be silly to think that with less time on a new system to see tremendous improvement. But to each their own and I don't want to do anything to quell your excitement. I just choose not to let sports games be the driving force of my Gen 4 system excitement.

I didn't even get a game console (PS3) until Red Dead Redemption came out and wasn't offered on PC. NBA2K has been on PC and Madden just wasn't anywhere near enough for me to purchase a game console. I'll wait till some games come out that I think are worth it before getting the next, next gen console. Who knows, maybe that game will be madden. I just won't spend the money until I'm convinced Madden has turned the corner and come up to NBA2K level.

[bucky60]

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the touch screen application will be how we kick the ball in Madden. Perhaps the touch screen also allows us to quickly choose what hot route we audible to by simply "drawing it" with our fingers. I'm not knocking it, though. These things might be cool.

I can imagine much, much better touch screen uses for other games, though. For example: Imagine Red Dead Redemption when you'd do the slow motion selecting of where you are about to rapid fire your rifle/revolver. Take that same sort of ability, and let us select points in the current defense where you want to "quick throw" to a certain spot immediately after the snap.

Touch screen on a controller? or on the screen? You'd have to be sitting right on top of the TV (right in front of it) to even use a touch screen. Touch screen on a computer makes sense to me. Touch screen on a game console doesn't do much for me.

[guaps]

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I'm optimistic and hope for the best, but I'm not holding my breath.

EA have told us that Battlefield 4 for PS4 will be astonishing - which I actually believe - and that the next-gen FIFA is already in the works - which I also believe will be astonishing. Next-gen Madden is surely in the works too, but if they just planning a graphical update of the current gen Madden then I'm not interested.

[tfctillidie]

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I went looking yesterday, but couldn't find it. Do you know if Bethesda is currently working on a new game? Elder Scrolls or some other? I've always wanted them to develop a Western in the same type of Fallout/Elder Scrolls open world.
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Old man bucky needs to google Elder Scrolls Online

Hell look at CCM, that was in development for Two Years! If that is the best that we can hope for from the biggest sports game publisher out there it would be silly to think that with less time on a new system to see tremendous improvement. But to each their own and I don't want to do anything to quell your excitement. I just choose not to let sports games be the driving force of my Gen 4 system excitement.

Two years and it wasn't even close to polished at all. Missing many basic concepts you'd expect from this kind of mode. Scary. Going to take the whole generation JUST to get back to where we were?