Why cant EA use their NCAA team for Madden

[wtd03]

It seems like NCAA is on another level than Madden all the way around. Its like one is varsity team and Madden is the JV developers.

There are things in NCAA like the halftime show with Reece and David, better presentation, more crowd atmosphere better involvment and tons less bugs.

Ncaa has WAY more stadiums, teams, colors, mascots to deal with. Madden doesnt. Just player names and salaries. Ncaa comes out ahead of madden and Im sure goes gold much faster. Madden they actually have more time to put into the game but dont.

While Madden has none of the above but more bugs. Why couldnt they give MAdden a halftime show with the CBS crew Shannon Sharpe, Marino etc? Why is the crowd so generic and dead? Why are the player models so small?

Why does it seem like one game is on track and the other looks like it was developed by 12 year olds

[GruffyMcGuiness]

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I wish NCAA was more like Madden. Gameplay feels so much better to me

[sportzbro]

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Not sure if trolling or not...

[servo75]

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It seems like NCAA is on another level than Madden all the way around. Its like one is varsity team and Madden is the JV developers.

I would reverse that question. While Madden does have some annoyances that NCAA doesn't have, the graphics, gameplay, and presentation are far superior in Madden. I think the two games do share SOME elements like Infinity Engine, certain animations, and menu design.

That being said, these development teams can't even get ONE game right, now you want to spread them to TWO games?

[reverend_heat]

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I'm personally praying that the next-gen team has absolutely ZERO members of the current gen ncaa/madden teams

[CT Pitbull]

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NCAA may have a few things like cold weather games in play now and a better zoom camera but M25 is the FAR superior football representation. especially on defense. D is far from perfect in madden but in NCAA it doesn't exist.

[roadman]

Re: Why cant EA use their NCAA team for Madden

There are employees that crossover.

[ggsimmonds]

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OP is tripping. On this entire cycle of current gen games, how has NCAA truly improved Dynasty? Outside of not being able to make their mind up on recruiting, they haven't really accomplished much.

[ghettogeeksta]

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I have both games and Ncaa Football 14 has WAY more bugs than Madden, a new bug thread pops up in that forum everyday! Defense worst in NCAA 14 especially pass defense (way worst). I do think Ncaa IE2 is better though, it's smoother, plays better than Madden with more foot-planting and gang tackling.
Presentation isn't any better either, I find it laughable that you brag on Ncaa's crowd noise, yeah the crowd is loud but when you look at the people in the stands they are not doing anything but standing their it just looks weird, Ncaa's presentation is nothing to brag about and the commentary is way worst than Madden's.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Off the top of my head.

Impact Engine: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Hit Stick: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Run blocking: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Hard cuts: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

QB AI movement in the pocket: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

CPU Ball Carrier Movement while running: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Field Degradation: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Foot planting: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Owner Mode > Dynasty

Precision Modifier > then the nothing NCAA 14 has for regular games control set up

Commentary: Even, neither impresses me

Pre game intro: For prime time games, Madden 25 > NCAA 14. Day games they are even

Main menu UI: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Infinity Engine 2.0: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Dives and dives over the top of the pile: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

Animations period: Madden 25 > NCAA 14

That is just off the top of my head. NCAA 14 is a good game, best in the series so far, but compared to Madden 25, it looks and feels 2 to 3 years old. Don't even feel or look like both games were made this year at the same time, in the same building, by the same company. Clearly they have a much higher quality standard for Madden then they do for NCAA.

I say it every year, there are things you can do in Madden that you can't do in NCAA from a user input level. And this year it is even more apparent. I played Madden 25 for 4 days straight, went back to NCAA 14 and NCAA 14 controls feel hell of sluggish compared to what I was use to in Madden 25. They just aren't as responsive. The movements and animations aren't as crisp either. I had to retrain myself to play NCAA 14.

Hit sticking in Madden 25 is fun and rewarding. You can just hear and see the impact. In NCAA 14, hit sticking is pretty much non existent. Majority of the time the ball carrier bounce backwards like he is made out of rubber. Then majority of time NCAA 14 calls regular tackles big hits, when it was just a regular tackle, there was nothing big about it at all.

Sure they both share the same core ideas and same tools, but their implementation of how to go about using the tools & ideas and what a football game should be like, is different. From a user input level, both games SHOULD feel the same, but they don't. From an animation level, it should be the same, but it isn't. I seen so many new animations in Madden 25 in just 4 days of playing that I never seen in ANY NCAA game I lost count. Kept on saying to myself, how come NCAA series don't have that animation over and over and over again.

[Sdrawkcab321]

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I assume it's kinda hard to work on 2 games at one time.

[brandon27]

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I feel they're pretty similar when it comes to the gameplay.

Visually, I think madden blows NCAA away.

Presentation... In game overlays and such... I think are much better done in NCAA because they use the ESPN license and such.

[boltsfanrob]

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Totally enjoy both games however madden crew seems to redo everything (ie field degradation, uniform degradation, try to incorporate stadium sounds) but the biggest overlook in presentation is how NCAA has the progressive day to night light progression. every game I played that started late afternoon progressed throughout the game and was eventually night. sad truth is that madden had this way back in years gone by with the shadows and progressive lighting. MLB series games made by EA even have this. couldn't they all get together for at least this side effects and work individually on the specific sport.

[Big FN Deal]

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I feel the spirit of what you are saying OP, even though both games do a poor job of being a reasonably complete representation of their respective sports imo, they could at least combine and share all the applicable football aspects. There are too many unnecessary differences in both games from everything to presentation to control scheme.

If a lesser known and established gaming company did the things EA Tiburon's does with their games, I don't think anyone would take them seriously and they wouldn't last long. However, it takes a long time to run an established brand into the ground but it's definitely possible, given the right conditions, ie NBA Live.

[I Peench]

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From what I understand, the gameplay teams are the same. Keep in mind, though, that they try to make each game feel distinctly different.

As for the comparison, M13 > NCAA13 by a mile.

However, NCAA14 > M25 by a wide margin.

-Physics is better in NCAA. Madden is incredibly arcadey and fast. Run a kickoff return in Madden, then do the same in NCAA. Night and day difference. NCAA isn't as fast, and there isnt as much skating.

-Coverage is substantially better in NCAA - both zone coverages and off man. Meanwhile, NCAA replicates man under way better.

-More inaccurate throws in NCAA, and more differentiation between good QBs and bad QBs.

-While owner mode is good, dynasty mode is more dynamic. Things happen in dynasty mode for a reason. FA and contract renegotiations are completely stale and black and white in Madden.