Interception Nullified By A Clipping Penalty During The Return

[Big FN Deal]

I should and will report this to the bugs/glitches thread if more people can confirm this somehow. Was playing an Online CFM game Week 2 against another User, I'm on defense, down 6 points in the 4th quarter with a little over a minute left, one timeout, 3rd n 8 or so, their at my 35 yd line. They throw an interception which I advance a few yards but there's a penalty on the play. I shake my head figuring it's a roughing the passer call but it turns out to be a clipping penalty during the INT return, no biggie, right?

WRONG, they accept the penalty, get the ball back at my 10 yard line and eventually the run out the clock for the win.

I'm not even going to rant, I just want to know has anyone else experienced this or is it just some random thing? Maybe even I am somehow missing some other explanation but I clearly saw the ref signal clipping and offer my opponent the pop up option to accept or decline, neither of which should have resulted in them getting the ball back. I even pondered the possibility that the clipping call was on my opponent before the INT and I accidentally hit "accept" but that shouldn't reward them the ball 1st and 10/goal at my ten either. WTF?

[GiantBlue76]

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Lol, welcome to the quality gameplay programming that is madden. Smh. Can this mess ever be fixed?

[JaymeeAwesome]

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I should and will report this to the bugs/glitches thread if more people can confirm this somehow. Was playing an Online CFM game Week 2 against another User, I'm on defense, down 6 points in the 4th quarter with a little over a minute left, one timeout, 3rd n 8 or so, their at my 35 yd line. They throw an interception which I advance a few yards but there's a penalty on the play. I shake my head figuring it's a roughing the passer call but it turns out to be a clipping penalty during the INT return, no biggie, right?

WRONG, they accept the penalty, get the ball back at my 10 yard line and eventually the run out the clock for the win.

I'm not even going to rant, I just want to know has anyone else experienced this or is it just some random thing? Maybe even I am somehow missing some other explanation but I clearly saw the ref signal clipping and offer my opponent the pop up option to accept or decline, neither of which should have resulted in them getting the ball back. I even pondered the possibility that the clipping call was on my opponent before the INT and I accidentally hit "accept" but that shouldn't reward them the ball 1st and 10/goal at my ten either. WTF?

Looks like you had the 49ers/Packers refs. Blatant disregard of the rules.

[Smoke6]

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OH NOES!!!!

Not another complaining about madden thread that should be in the impressions thread!!!

j/k, But man that sucks!

I swear they dont test this game out and those prima guys should know way better since they gotta play the game to make their strat guides to this game. Man im so tired of this companies mishaps and ineptness to make a decent football game consistently!

Even challenges are screwed up in this game and whats done is done!

[Caliboy626]

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You think that's bad! I was down by two in the fourth quarter with 39 seconds to play (Score was 34-32). They are at there own two yard line and are trying to run the clock out with inside runs. I send an all out blitz trying anything possible to stop them in there own end zone and tie the game up (I still have two time outs by the way). Its third down and 11 and he hikes the ball. My outside linebacker breaks off his blocker and makes the tackle at the one yard line pushing his running back into the end zone for the safety!!!! I am jumping up and down celebrating the game tying safety and getting the ball back with plenty of time to get a field goal when I realize that they have the ball back at the 1 yard line with fourth down coming up.

WHAT?!?!?!?! I check to see if I can challenge and I do not have the option to do so. The refs do not call for a booth review. So I check the replay over and over and over and over again from many different angles. It is clearly a safety. Yes the tackle was initiated at the one but I cleary pushed his player back (You know that stiff arm animation where your tackle and the ball carrier fight for yards) at least 3 yards into his own end zone. The knee was not even close to being down in the field of play. Still no booth review and no ability to challenge. He punts the ball on fourth down and I am able to get close to field goal range but not quite. It would have been a 62 yard attempt other wise. He plays good defense and I wind up throwing an interception. Yes my mistake but regardless the game should have been tied and I should have the ball on a safety punt.

Oh Madden how you drive me crazy!!!!

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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You think that's bad! I was down by two in the fourth quarter with 39 seconds to play (Score was 34-32). They are at there own two yard line and are trying to run the clock out with inside runs. I send an all out blitz trying anything possible to stop them in there own end zone and tie the game up (I still have two time outs by the way). Its third down and 11 and he hikes the ball. My outside linebacker breaks off his blocker and makes the tackle at the one yard line pushing his running back into the end zone for the safety!!!! I am jumping up and down celebrating the game tying safety and getting the ball back with plenty of time to get a field goal when I realize that they have the ball back at the 1 yard line with fourth down coming up.

WHAT?!?!?!?! I check to see if I can challenge and I do not have the option to do so. The refs do not call for a booth review. So I check the replay over and over and over and over again from many different angles. It is clearly a safety. Yes the tackle was initiated at the one but I cleary pushed his player back (You know that stiff arm animation where your tackle and the ball carrier fight for yards) at least 3 yards into his own end zone. The knee was not even close to being down in the field of play. Still no booth review and no ability to challenge. He punts the ball on fourth down and I am able to get close to field goal range but not quite. It would have been a 62 yard attempt other wise. He plays good defense and I wind up throwing an interception. Yes my mistake but regardless the game should have been tied and I should have the ball on a safety punt.

Oh Madden how you drive me crazy!!!!

The game got this correct. You initiated contact within the field of play. It's not where you tackled him but where you began to tackle him.

[NYJin2011tm]

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Yea any game I have seen on tv if the contact is initiated outside the endzone and is pushed into the endzone they spot the ball at the spot of original initiated contact.

[Caliboy626]

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I Stand corrected then. Thanks for clearing that up guys.

[Big FN Deal]

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I checked out Youtube and this is the closest known issue that might explain but not excuse what happened (both have explicit language). http://youtu.be/hTFHHcL_6TM

http://youtu.be/M1t_QfrIL60

In my game this all happened on an attempted screen pass too, so there is a chance the INT was automatically reviewed, considered a fumble and overturned/QB ruled down due to the glitch, with the clipping penalty called on me during the attempted return back, still enforced.

That play is either an INT because it's ruled a forward pass or a fumble, either way, it's a turnover. Even worse it seems to be a repeat glitch of M13.

[VR46]

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It's too bad that rants like Caliboy626's give the developers the excuse to sigh and say "these "fans" don't know what they're talking about, they just want to complain".

If you don't have a solid grasp of the rule book, spent 3 minutes on a google search before heading for OS in capslock mode.

Regarding OP, I had a clipping call during an interception by me last night and I did keep the ball. It doesn't mean there's not a glitch/bug, but there's something else that happened to cause it.. I'll be watching the replay closely next time it happens. Big turnovers are probably the most fun part of game play, losing one to a bug is a punch in the gut for sure.

[Caliboy626]

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It's too bad that rants like Caliboy626's give the developers the excuse to sigh and say "these "fans" don't know what they're talking about, they just want to complain".

If you don't have a solid grasp of the rule book, spent 3 minutes on a google search before heading for OS in capslock mode.

Regarding OP, I had a clipping call during an interception by me last night and I did keep the ball. It doesn't mean there's not a glitch/bug, but there's something else that happened to cause it.. I'll be watching the replay closely next time it happens. Big turnovers are probably the most fun part of game play, losing one to a bug is a punch in the gut for sure.

HAHA! Have you ever read the NFL rule book??? Its extremely tedious. I am actually well versed in football knowledge and have been watching and playing the game for well over 20 years. Your comment was completely unnecessary. It was not a rant and I believe the only times I used capital letters was to start my sentences. Posts like this where you assume you know somebody or want to pass judgment on me and blame other people for the developers not being thorough in their jobs is laughable (How old are you btw?).

[Caliboy626]

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On another note, whats the point of having a forum for any reason other than to exchange information. The other two posters were helpful and provided me with the correct information. I was wrong and I admitted as much. But your right, its people like me that make everything that's wrong with madden possible lol.

[ll SRR ll]

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I had a glitch similar to this in a ranked match. I threw for a first down along the sideline where the catch was short of the 1rst down. The d-fence got flagged for roughing the QB. I accepted the penalty and got the first down then the other guy challenges the play. They not only overturned the catch but I lost the penalty as well. I pretty sure I wound up losing that game bc of that.

[VR46]

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HAHA! Have you ever read the NFL rule book??? Its extremely tedious. I am actually well versed in football knowledge and have been watching and playing the game for well over 20 years. Your comment was completely unnecessary. It was not a rant and I believe the only times I used capital letters was to start my sentences. Posts like this where you assume you know somebody or want to pass judgment on me and blame other people for the developers not being thorough in their jobs is laughable (How old are you btw?).

No go stand in front of a mirror and punch yourself in the face you child.

On another note, whats the point of having a forum for any reason other than to exchange information. The other two posters were helpful and provided me with the correct information. I was wrong and I admitted as much. But your right, its people like me that make everything that's wrong with madden possible lol.

You've played football for 20 years and you're completely unfamiliar with forward progress? Did you ever wonder why teams would get first downs even if the ball carrier was pushed behind the marker?

You and I have very different thresholds for "well versed"

I'm not concerned with your football knowledge. The issue I had is that every post like yours justifies the developers opinion that we're just a bunch of casual fan whiners that hate losing at a video game. And it makes it easier for them to ignore legitimate gripes from gamers who know the game well.

If you're keeping score, Caliboy626, you don't know the game well. This is a heads up to review other things you've been doing for 20 years, you may not be as well versed as you think you are.

I wrote this entire post while punching myself in the face.

[Big FN Deal]

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I had a glitch similar to this in a ranked match. I threw for a first down along the sideline where the catch was short of the 1rst down. The d-fence got flagged for roughing the QB. I accepted the penalty and got the first down then the other guy challenges the play. They not only overturned the catch but I lost the penalty as well. I pretty sure I wound up losing that game bc of that.

Except in this case it seems the overturning of the completed catch, I presume, somehow negated the roughing the passer penalty all together. Guess the AI couldn't handle overturning the call on the field of a completed catch and still enforcing the penalty. Which is odd considering in my case the AI did exactly that when it shouldn't have.