What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

[dghustla]

We know the passing game will be the same (at least we can assume so)
Graphics you either like what you see or you don't
Animations, presentation and cut scenes appear to be for the most part status quo.

The areas EA says they have improved are
Player Motion, AI and LinePlay.


if the game truely "feels different" (In a good way) as Vic Lugo put it and these areas work the way EA intends for them to work. Would you consider Madden next gen a success this year?

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

1. Pass interference called on a regular basis. Along with offsides.

2. CPU blocking punts and FGs. Keyword being CPU

3. Good time management and play calling by the CPU.

4. An actual pass rush on a consistent basis by BOTH CPU defensive ends from 4 man and 3 man fronts.

[ir2proforu2]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

THE GRASSS!!!!!!!!!

[UptheARSEnal]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

If it is the lowest selling worst reviewed Madden of all time, I will consider it a success for football gamers everywhere.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

1. Pass interference called on a regular basis. Along with offsides.

2. CPU blocking punts and FGs. Keyword being CPU

3. Good time management and play calling by the CPU.

4. An actual pass rush on a consistent basis by BOTH CPU defensive ends from 4 man and 3 man fronts.

To piggy back off this i'll simplify it for me and just say: improved AI across the board and proper implementation of penalties.

If they can't fix these two things it doesn't matter how the game looks. If I still can't play against the CPU because they don't know how to call plays or even execute the plays it'll be pointless to get next gen. And if the game STILL has no real penalties in it, how can it be a representation of football? These are the two reasons my current gen M25 is collecting dust.

[steelersfan77]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

To piggy back off this i'll simplify it for me and just say: improved AI across the board and proper implementation of penalties.

If they can't fix these two things it doesn't matter how the game looks. If I still can't play against the CPU because they don't know how to call plays or even execute the plays it'll be pointless to get next gen. And if the game STILL has no real penalties in it, how can it be a representation of football? These are the two reasons my current gen M25 is collecting dust.

Pretty much these points of emphasis. The challenge system still doesn't work correct on current gen. The only NFL licensed game in town and it has poor player movement, animations, presentation, logic and it doesn't get all the other little things right that replicates the game of football.

But hey, it looks shiny (wrong outdated equipment) and you can drop back 30 yards and still complete an accurate pass throwing off three back foot while facing the sideline.

[TeeDogg]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

My expectations for madden are on a grade curve.

1. Improved fluiidity to animations and transitions.
2. Less I.E. oddities ( hopefully down to almost none)
3. Stable sliders
4. Improved A.I.
5. Less buggy left trigger mechanics, and more fleshed out left trigger move. There's a lot of potential there if they approach it right.

[wordtobigbird]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

Pretty much these points of emphasis. The challenge system still doesn't work correct on current gen. The only NFL licensed game in town and it has poor player movement, animations, presentation, logic and it doesn't get all the other little things right that replicates the game of football.

But hey, it looks shiny (wrong outdated equipment) and you can drop back 30 yards and still complete an accurate pass throwing off three back foot while facing the sideline.

The more I think about it the crazier it seems that so many people are just okay with Madden not having penalties. You can't watch and NFL game without MOST drives being effected by penalties. I wish every once and awhile Roddy would get OPI on those curl routes, he does it all the time in real life. And Julio gets called a lot of pushing off on deep routes before the jump. These kind of penalties are what make you punt and have to try again next drive. In Madden, the offense never slows itself down. The defense is incompetent and you have the current product as a result. I can't remember ever having a penalty cancel a 3rd down conversion on me and force me to punt. I can never remember playing good D and giving up a big penalty that caused the offense to gain some momentum back. I can't even get roughing the passer or DPI if I try sometimes lol. You literally have to hit stick them 3 seconds to late or 3 seconds too early for the penalty to be called.

[TeeDogg]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

The more I think about it the crazier it seems that so many people are just okay with Madden not having penalties. You can't watch and NFL game without MOST drives being effected by penalties. I wish every once and awhile Roddy would get OPI on those curl routes, he does it all the time in real life. And Julio gets called a lot of pushing off on deep routes before the jump. These kind of penalties are what make you punt and have to try again next drive. In Madden, the offense never slows itself down. The defense is incompetent and you have the current product as a result. I can't remember ever having a penalty cancel a 3rd down conversion on me and force me to punt. I can never remember playing good D and giving up a big penalty that caused the offense to gain some momentum back. I can't even get roughing the passer or DPI if I try sometimes lol. You literally have to hit stick them 3 seconds to late or 3 seconds too early for the penalty to be called.

for me its the "curve" I mentioned earlier. I would love Madden to have a fully fleshed penalty system, as well as a more in depth challenge system. I could go on and on.........and actually I did go on and on for years LOL. but at this stage, if they can just get the gameplay caught up to this era. i'll take it. and to me they are making strides in that area.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

Good question OP and even though I'm labeled as some unreasonable EA ***** with lofty goals for NFL representation my bar for M25 next gen success was low, imo.

Although there is less than zero chance of it happening after what we know so far, I would have considered realistic fluid player movement and a top flight network broadcast package, including real time presentation, in concert with the things already touted, ie Living Worlds, AI, etc, enough for success. Reason being, those things would have been enough to instantly and viscerally set next gen Madden 25 apart from any other Madden.

I could essentially keep repeating the same thing, just phrasing it different ways but to put it plainly, it's baffling how a company so focused on marketing flash over substance, continually fails to utilize in-game assets to achieve NFL realism, to fool/distract the gamer from the video game issues.

[azdawgpound]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

to actually have the game work right the minute its out the box that way there's no adjusting sliders to get penalty's to work...or adjusting sliders because one part of the game's broke while another part is over powering.

also to add all the old options back in well except fight for the fumble because that was ea's worst idea EVER!!!!!!!!.

if they do all that and fix the gameplay so its not like were playing now on these then I would call doing all that as a success...if not we could be in for another 8 yrs of FAILURE!!!!!.

[russellmorris52]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

After listening to the press row podcast today i have alot more faith in the next generation of madden. True step sounds like it could be a game changer in years to come. I just want players to have more idenitity , i want distinct play styles , i dont want adrian peterson to have the same running animations as lesean mccoy. Of course there would be some overlap but madden needs to make schemes and play styles a bigger part of the equation. Also we need to see way more inaccurate passes from QB's , guys stretching out and barely missing the ball or tipping it.

[ghettogeeksta]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

After listening to the press row podcast today i have alot more faith in the next generation of madden. True step sounds like it could be a game changer in years to come. I just want players to have more idenitity , i want distinct play styles , i dont want adrian peterson to have the same running animations as lesean mccoy. Of course there would be some overlap but madden needs to make schemes and play styles a bigger part of the equation. Also we need to see way more inaccurate passes from QB's , guys stretching out and barely missing the ball or tipping it.

Dude just give it up and move on, theirs more games out their than Madden. Madden is never going to be what we want it to be, stop setting yourself up to be heartbroken.
Dude works for EA, his entire goal for the interview was to make people feel better about Madden.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

We know the passing game will be the same (at least we can assume so)
Graphics you either like what you see or you don't
Animations, presentation and cut scenes appear to be for the most part status quo.

The areas EA says they have improved are
Player Motion, AI and LinePlay.


if the game truely "feels different" (In a good way) as Vic Lugo put it and these areas work the was EA intends for them to work. Would you consider Madden next gen a success this year?

Animations, the passing game, presentation status quo then the game is a failure to me. Madden has the choppiest animations of any sports game, the least presentation of any sports game, and in my opinion the passing game with throw a wr open ball tethering and deadly accurate qbs is worse than the ps2 games.

EA cannot have spent 2 years on this game and left those areas untouched. That is unacceptable to me.

[raiders81tim]

Re: What will make Madden 25 Next Gen a success in your eyes

It being better than 2K games from years past.