Tackling glitch

[Sturzinator]

I sure hope they plan to patch this game killer. The defender (I see it most often with safeties - yours or the CPU's) will take a good angle on the ball carrier but then just when contact should be made and the tackle animation triggered, they will stop, squat, and run off in a different direction. Thus allowing a lot of extra yardage and, in most cases, a score.

I used to think it only happened when near the sideline, but after watching some more replays, I see it happens all over the field. There are some games where it doesn't happen, others I will see it several times. I like to play using the no switch rule, but now I have to change it up or these kind of plays will go on unabated. Since I'm not used to switching, I often miss the tackle with my defender anyway, yielding the same result.

I hear EA says the sack issue is too complex to fix with a patch, but hopefully they can get their heads around this one. I reported it in the bug and glitch thread. I am a bit surprised I have not heard more talk of this problem on the forum.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

I sure hope they plan to patch this game killer. The defender (I see it most often with safeties - yours or the CPU's) will take a good angle on the ball carrier but then just when contact should be made and the tackle animation triggered, they will stop, squat, and run off in a different direction. Thus allowing a lot of extra yardage and, in most cases, a score.

I used to think it only happened when near the sideline, but after watching some more replays, I see it happens all over the field. There are some games where it doesn't happen, others I will see it several times. I like to play using the no switch rule, but now I have to change it up or these kind of plays will go on unabated. Since I'm not used to switching, I often miss the tackle with my defender anyway, yielding the same result.

I hear EA says the sack issue is too complex to fix with a patch, but hopefully they can get their heads around this one. I reported it in the bug and glitch thread. I am a bit surprised I have not heard more talk of this problem on the forum.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

This issue has been in the game at least since madden 25 (didnt really play a lot of 13 so cant remember)

[Sturzinator]

Re: Tackling glitch

This issue has been in the game at least since madden 25 (didnt really play a lot of 13 so cant remember)

Hmmm...played a good bit of M25 and never saw it there.

[tamburo22]

Re: Tackling glitch

I sure hope they plan to patch this game killer. The defender (I see it most often with safeties - yours or the CPU's) will take a good angle on the ball carrier but then just when contact should be made and the tackle animation triggered, they will stop, squat, and run off in a different direction. Thus allowing a lot of extra yardage and, in most cases, a score.

I used to think it only happened when near the sideline, but after watching some more replays, I see it happens all over the field. There are some games where it doesn't happen, others I will see it several times. I like to play using the no switch rule, but now I have to change it up or these kind of plays will go on unabated. Since I'm not used to switching, I often miss the tackle with my defender anyway, yielding the same result.

I hear EA says the sack issue is too complex to fix with a patch, but hopefully they can get their heads around this one. I reported it in the bug and glitch thread. I am a bit surprised I have not heard more talk of this problem on the forum.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

Sturz...what sliders are you using? I've seen this as well, think it has to do with pursuit penalty sliders (kr/pr int, rtk).

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

Hmmm...played a good bit of M25 and never saw it there.

Im still playing madden 25 on daily basis and it happens every game
However i think tamburo might be on to something

[Sturzinator]

Re: Tackling glitch

Sturz...what sliders are you using? I've seen this as well, think it has to do with pursuit penalty sliders (kr/pr int, rtk).

I have my own custom set I have been using on all-madden. I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure PCI is 40 and RTK is at 50.

What have you discovered with these in relation to the issue?

[tamburo22]

Re: Tackling glitch

I have my own custom set I have been using on all-madden. I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure PCI is 40 and RTK is at 50.

What have you discovered with these in relation to the issue?

From what I can tell, the lower that you set those two, the more aggressive they are in their pursuit. The defenders take an aggressive angle to the ball carrier, and then readjust right when they get there, causing them to stop and take a different angle. I haven't messed with PCI much, but raising RTK causes the defense to take a more "cautious" angle. Setting it at 60 has worked well for me.

[Sturzinator]

Re: Tackling glitch

From what I can tell, the lower that you set those two, the more aggressive they are in their pursuit. The defenders take an aggressive angle to the ball carrier, and then readjust right when they get there, causing them to stop and take a different angle. I haven't messed with PCI much, but raising RTK causes the defense to take a more "cautious" angle. Setting it at 60 has worked well for me.

Are you not seeing the issue at all using those settings?

I knew how these affected hustle to the ball, swarming, etc. but never thought about it in terms of pursuit angles.

I will give it a shot. I am at 50 RTK now, so only ten more, but maybe it's the magic number. Thanks for your input.

[BanchamekGym]

Re: Tackling glitch

I sure hope they plan to patch this game killer. The defender (I see it most often with safeties - yours or the CPU's) will take a good angle on the ball carrier but then just when contact should be made and the tackle animation triggered, they will stop, squat, and run off in a different direction. Thus allowing a lot of extra yardage and, in most cases, a score.

I used to think it only happened when near the sideline, but after watching some more replays, I see it happens all over the field. There are some games where it doesn't happen, others I will see it several times. I like to play using the no switch rule, but now I have to change it up or these kind of plays will go on unabated. Since I'm not used to switching, I often miss the tackle with my defender anyway, yielding the same result.

I hear EA says the sack issue is too complex to fix with a patch, but hopefully they can get their heads around this one. I reported it in the bug and glitch thread. I am a bit surprised I have not heard more talk of this problem on the forum.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

In "play now" games on All-Pro I have seen defenders that are running towards the sideline to catch a fast runner and just as they get there they stop right before the tackle or going out of bounds and watch the runner go by.

I have only noticed this at the sidelines and actually don't mind it, as in the past the defender would always push the runner out of bounds despite looking like they should be left in the dust, or if you tried to juke back into the field their "outside foot" would step out of bounds when you cut.

What I am seeing which is is pissing me off, especially because it seemed to first appear in last year's game and has not been fixed is defenders "teleporting" magically across the field to make a tackle or come close, floating over the field and through the other players in an instant.

[CaseIH]

Re: Tackling glitch

In "play now" games on All-Pro I have seen defenders that are running towards the sideline to catch a fast runner and just as they get there they stop right before the tackle or going out of bounds and watch the runner go by.

I have only noticed this at the sidelines and actually don't mind it, as in the past the defender would always push the runner out of bounds despite looking like they should be left in the dust, or if you tried to juke back into the field their "outside foot" would step out of bounds when you cut.

What I am seeing which is is pissing me off, especially because it seemed to first appear in last year's game and has not been fixed is defenders "teleporting" magically across the field to make a tackle or come close, floating over the field and through the other players in an instant.

I seen 1 of my players on a kickoff teleport probably 20 yards to make a tackle. He vanished then all of sudden appeared in time to lay a big hit on the Kick Returner. I was like WTF just happened. Its the only time I have seen it but it was definitely weird to see.

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

Which slider is RTK ?

[Ueauvan]

Re: Tackling glitch

roughing the kicker

this happens to me with my safeties especially near sideline. ill have to look up what i use

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

roughing the kicker

this happens to me with my safeties especially near sideline. ill have to look up what i use

Thanks, i will try playing around with the slider and see if i get any positive results since now im getting 3-5 glitched tackle attempts per game .

Edit: just finished playing a game in my CFM after changing PCI to 50 and RTK to 60 and not a single glitched tackle attempt, im not saying this works based off what happened in one game but there definitely wasnt any glitched tackles in this game, will play some more and see what happens.

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

Just started playing second game with the slider changes and it happened in the first quarter again... eh.

[lisinas]

Re: Tackling glitch

Ok played 3 full games after changing PCI and RTK and i had one instance of glitched attempt at tackle so im pretty sure this actually works, i had my PCI at 50 and RTK at 60 which was suggested by tamburo22. What i noticed when playing is:
1.Instead of defenders playing like headhunters aka running at full speed to your ball carrier and then stopping for no reason when they are about to hit you they seem more conservative with their angles, what i saw is defenders taking "cautious" angles and making tackles instead of what was happening before slider change, i also saw a few new tackle animations but maybe it was just a coincidence. I didnt see too much change in overall gameplay (which is a good thing) other than having both Quarterbacks complete more than 70% of their passes in last game which is a rarity with my slider set but then again this could have been a coincidence and i need bigger game sample to actually see if those 2 sliders actually affect coverage or QB accuracy somehow (also keep in mind im on m25 not m15). All in all i wanna thank tamburo22 for his suggested slider changes to solve this problem cause this was really annoying me .

Just shows how broken madden is on some things, KR/PR interference and roughing the kicker sliders impacting gameplay in various ways that are in no way shape or form connected to actual slider names.