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  • Spear
    Video Game Dev
    • Sep 2002
    • 4433

    #1

    College Dynasty Mode Thread

    Now that we are in February, we are in full development of a College Dynasty mode that will be released in September with Doug Flutie's Maximum Football 2019.

    As we continue development, I will update this post with confirmed features that we have built.

    - League Structures: 130 US Teams or 27 Canadian Teams. Similar conference structures.

    - All teams can be edited but cannot be shared online due to legal reasons. You may be able to share files offline if the console allows you to.

    - There will be conferences and the schedule will have conference and non-conference games.

    - Recruiting will be an in-depth points system and you can make different pitches to the recruit. Each recruit will have different motivations and decision making. Schools will have ratings/personality that will attract certain recruits. Similar to NCAA 09 style.

    - Recruits will have hometowns (over 4,000 different cities/towns for the US league, there will be 1,100 different Canadian cities/towns for the Canadian league). We have used 9 years worth of real recruit data to generate these hometowns.

    - Recruits will have combine stats - 40, Bench, Vertical, etc. This has already been added in.

    - We are working on a progression system so 5-star recruits could be a boom or a bust

    - Player Suspensions

    - Playoff and Bowls

    - Redshirting of players is in.


    ** Latest Update - we are currently working on AI logic for recruiting.
    Last edited by Spear; 03-06-2019, 03:54 PM.
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  • vtcrb
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2006
    • 10287

    #2
    Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

    Hoping we will be able to control multiple teams. I would love ability to control all 130 teams. This was main feature lacking in NCAA 14.
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    • Spear
      Video Game Dev
      • Sep 2002
      • 4433

      #3
      Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

      Originally posted by vtcrb
      Hoping we will be able to control multiple teams. I would love ability to control all 130 teams. This was main feature lacking in NCAA 14.
      Our Season mode in 2018 had the ability to control all teams but we don't have a decision on that for Dynasty at the moment.

      We're scoping out how we are going to develop School ratings and what that means to Recruiting. These school ratings (academics, facilities, program prestige etc) could be associated with how well the user performs or even the user influencing what ratings are increased. If that's the case, then controlling multiple teams can get messy.

      But we haven't started that part of the game yet - so we'll keep you updated on what the outcome is!
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      • ShowTyme15
        LADetermined
        • Jan 2004
        • 11857

        #4
        Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

        Will we be able to edit coaches? What about staffs? HC, DC, OC, Special Teams etc?????

        What about a coaching carousel at the end of the season?

        Player transfers?
        Last edited by ShowTyme15; 02-06-2019, 01:34 PM.

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        • vtcrb
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2006
          • 10287

          #5
          Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

          Originally posted by Spear
          Our Season mode in 2018 had the ability to control all teams but we don't have a decision on that for Dynasty at the moment.

          We're scoping out how we are going to develop School ratings and what that means to Recruiting. These school ratings (academics, facilities, program prestige etc) could be associated with how well the user performs or even the user influencing what ratings are increased. If that's the case, then controlling multiple teams can get messy.

          But we haven't started that part of the game yet - so we'll keep you updated on what the outcome is!
          Controlling all teams isn't for everyone, but for some (myself included) it is a welcomed edition. I use it I both Madden & NBA 2K. It also comes into play when you have multiple friends or family member who want to play a Dynasty with you and be different schools.
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          • NateDogPack12
            Go Pack Go!!
            • Jul 2011
            • 1274

            #6
            Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

            My thoughts on this mode:

            -I am truly excited about the ability to edit / create all of these teams! If this game takes an approach kind of like Super Mega Baseball 2 and just lets us have fun creating schools, I’m going to be all in. There are so many successful recruiting models, even in simple form like NCAA 2004. Just so long as it is a balanced system with gems / busts.

            -I think something to think about is features that will give recruiting immersion. Don’t just have names be random dice rolls. Have a random Jr. or III thrown in. Give the names realistic demography.

            -Also, make features that will capitalize on all the customization the game will offer. Custom rivalry games, etc.

            -Realistic injuries with a slider is a good thing, but also suspensions due to grades, discipline etc. affect college programs too. Maybe have each player have a discipline rating and tie overall team discipline to one of those factors that attracts recruits.

            -With any dynasty mode, the aim engine under the hood is important. You need to be able to trust the game to generate realistic stats, box scores, injuries etc. The Force Win feature is a cool thing as well.
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            • GlennN
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 1930

              #7
              Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

              I am very excited for this concept!! Looks promising!!

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              • Ragnar53
                Pro
                • Mar 2014
                • 547

                #8
                Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                How many offensive formations will there be? Will you be able to switch to a specific formation or will it be tied to a school and you can't change it?



                Will there be the ability to build an offense like Bob Debasse Shotgun Triple Option/3 back system?


                Here is what it looked like at New Mexico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjrfqD7x2ws&t=56s


                Here is what it looks like at Georgia Southern. Slight differences.







                It's honestly just the Flexbone (instead of the QB under center he's in shotgun space) in Shotgun Formation along with Maryland I (3 backs) in shotgun formation (with the ability to motion one 1 yard to either side) if you want to be relative. It allows the offense to attack the horizantal space much quicker and easier, because of how the defense is forced to defend it (there's still 2 recievers out wide on both sides of the field).



                Traditional Flexbone offenses like how the Service Academies (Army, Navy, Air Force) run?

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                • mkharsh33
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 12712

                  #9
                  Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                  roster sharing a part this??

                  this really sounds so cool - kudos to you. Not going to harp on the alternatives, just grateful for what you've been sharing in the various posts. thank you!
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                  • Spear
                    Video Game Dev
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 4433

                    #10
                    Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                    Will we be able to edit coaches? What about staffs? HC, DC, OC, Special Teams etc?????

                    What about a coaching carousel at the end of the season?

                    Player transfers?
                    Goal is to have a coaching carousel at some point. We need to build the entire infrastructure first then we can start tacking on features like this.

                    It's tough for me to comment on what will be included by release because we are building the entire Dynasty from scratch and I don't know how long it will take us to perfect the basic infrastructure. As each week passes I'll have more new information on what we were able to accomplish.

                    I will say though - we have made a ton of progress in a short period of time.
                    Owner, Spear Interactive
                    Indie Game Publisher & Developer | Canada

                    Building Varsity – The first-ever High School Football video game
                    Coming to Steam, Xbox, & PlayStation

                    Join our Discord: discord.gg/v8aFWkmYMT
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                    • Spear
                      Video Game Dev
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 4433

                      #11
                      Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                      Originally posted by NateDogPack12
                      My thoughts on this mode:

                      -I am truly excited about the ability to edit / create all of these teams! If this game takes an approach kind of like Super Mega Baseball 2 and just lets us have fun creating schools, I’m going to be all in. There are so many successful recruiting models, even in simple form like NCAA 2004. Just so long as it is a balanced system with gems / busts.

                      -I think something to think about is features that will give recruiting immersion. Don’t just have names be random dice rolls. Have a random Jr. or III thrown in. Give the names realistic demography.

                      -Also, make features that will capitalize on all the customization the game will offer. Custom rivalry games, etc.

                      -Realistic injuries with a slider is a good thing, but also suspensions due to grades, discipline etc. affect college programs too. Maybe have each player have a discipline rating and tie overall team discipline to one of those factors that attracts recruits.

                      -With any dynasty mode, the aim engine under the hood is important. You need to be able to trust the game to generate realistic stats, box scores, injuries etc. The Force Win feature is a cool thing as well.
                      - We will be putting a lot of time into the recruiting system and it's always been my personal favorite aspect of Dynasty mode, so we want to make it rewarding.


                      - Jr & III would be cool. However, player Names consist of two fields in the database - First & Last. Think of it as a massive Excel spreadsheet with all our fields. For us to add in a third field would cause us to rework a lot of screens to accommodate this change and it's going to change our current database structure. If we attached the Jr or III to a Last Name like Smith Jr then it would be okay. But for it to be completely dynamic with any Last Name would be difficult. I know that was long winded but trying to give you some context and lift back the curtain on the process.

                      - We would like to do something with discipline, so we'll see how that unfolds as we dive into building out the recruiting and school data. The PS2 era did a great job of this feature.
                      Owner, Spear Interactive
                      Indie Game Publisher & Developer | Canada

                      Building Varsity – The first-ever High School Football video game
                      Coming to Steam, Xbox, & PlayStation

                      Join our Discord: discord.gg/v8aFWkmYMT
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                      • Spear
                        Video Game Dev
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 4433

                        #12
                        Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                        Originally posted by Ragnar53
                        How many offensive formations will there be? Will you be able to switch to a specific formation or will it be tied to a school and you can't change it?



                        Will there be the ability to build an offense like Bob Debasse Shotgun Triple Option/3 back system?


                        Here is what it looked like at New Mexico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjrfqD7x2ws&t=56s


                        Here is what it looks like at Georgia Southern. Slight differences.







                        It's honestly just the Flexbone (instead of the QB under center he's in shotgun space) in Shotgun Formation along with Maryland I (3 backs) in shotgun formation (with the ability to motion one 1 yard to either side) if you want to be relative. It allows the offense to attack the horizantal space much quicker and easier, because of how the defense is forced to defend it (there's still 2 recievers out wide on both sides of the field).



                        Traditional Flexbone offenses like how the Service Academies (Army, Navy, Air Force) run?
                        We haven't started on this part of the game yet. We already have a number of plays in the game which will also be included in 2019. But we do need to add in more College specific plays. We have recorded a number of animations for Options, Reads, etc.

                        We might have a need for somebody in the community to assist in play creation. Open casting call here...PM me if anybody is interested.

                        Also - don't be surprised if one of our content updates after release is a Play Editor. We do have a version of it already made but it's not optimized for the console yet. Keep your eyes out for our Twitter poll when we ask the community to vote on major features that we should develop.

                        That's how Logo Editor, Dynasty, Player Models and New Animations got in the game!
                        Owner, Spear Interactive
                        Indie Game Publisher & Developer | Canada

                        Building Varsity – The first-ever High School Football video game
                        Coming to Steam, Xbox, & PlayStation

                        Join our Discord: discord.gg/v8aFWkmYMT
                        VarsityVideoGame.com | SpearInteractive.com

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                        • Spear
                          Video Game Dev
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 4433

                          #13
                          Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                          Originally posted by mkharsh33
                          roster sharing a part this??

                          this really sounds so cool - kudos to you. Not going to harp on the alternatives, just grateful for what you've been sharing in the various posts. thank you!
                          Commented on roster sharing in the first post. We will not be able to offer online roster sharing, unfortunately.

                          The NCAA and their licensing agencies have told us that this is not permissible. They have gone as far to tell us that other games that exist on the marketplace today are breaking their rules.
                          Owner, Spear Interactive
                          Indie Game Publisher & Developer | Canada

                          Building Varsity – The first-ever High School Football video game
                          Coming to Steam, Xbox, & PlayStation

                          Join our Discord: discord.gg/v8aFWkmYMT
                          VarsityVideoGame.com | SpearInteractive.com

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11857

                            #14
                            Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                            Originally posted by Spear
                            Goal is to have a coaching carousel at some point. We need to build the entire infrastructure first then we can start tacking on features like this.

                            It's tough for me to comment on what will be included by release because we are building the entire Dynasty from scratch and I don't know how long it will take us to perfect the basic infrastructure. As each week passes I'll have more new information on what we were able to accomplish.

                            I will say though - we have made a ton of progress in a short period of time.
                            Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. Hey man progress is progress. I'm just excited to get some CFB back in some way shape or form. Definitely will be following your progress man. Keep up the awesome work.

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                            • armymule
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 162

                              #15
                              Re: College Dynasty Mode Thread

                              For the college game it would be good if we could edit schedules so that rivalry games could be played in their correct week (ex: Army vs Navy as last game of season)

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