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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4928

    #1

    Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

    I notice that all QB were Robo QB. Including users.. then i found this video with some test and i can tell why Offenses are so overpowered.

    English, is not my first language.
  • Playmakers
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 15418

    #2
    Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

    I wouldn't say ratings don't matter.

    I think EA just makes the game extremely offensive heavy out of the box and default sliders are geared towards arcade play style.

    What I wish they do is modify their game play sliders when a user selects Sumulation mode.

    I'm not saying doing that will make game perfect but atleast if they had a few competent testers work on it they could release a game out of the box that plays some form of Simulation football.

    As it stands now like every other year we have to spend hours, weeks or months fiddling with sliders just to a semi realistic football game
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    • booker21
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4928

      #3
      Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

      Hey Playmakers. I agree with you but i'm to old to test as i used to but seeing that he (video creator) edited QB acc to 1 and he was still making perfect throws hit me. Ratings should affect more, i understand if we can't see a difference between Footwork Agilty rating but Throw accuracy is pretty simple to see. is like if i edit a Speed to 1 and still keep up with a 99 player.
      English, is not my first language.

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      • King Gro23
        MVP
        • Jan 2008
        • 2548

        #4
        Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

        Originally posted by Playmakers
        I wouldn't say ratings don't matter.



        I think EA just makes the game extremely offensive heavy out of the box and default sliders are geared towards arcade play style.



        What I wish they do is modify their game play sliders when a user selects Sumulation mode.



        I'm not saying doing that will make game perfect but atleast if they had a few competent testers work on it they could release a game out of the box that plays some form of Simulation football.



        As it stands now like every other year we have to spend hours, weeks or months fiddling with sliders just to a semi realistic football game

        Did you watch the video , the title is misleading. But pass accuracy ratings do not matter in practice would have to see it happen in game. I can attest as I did a similar test. The game has a very hard time creating inaccurate/uncatchable balls


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        • oneamongthefence
          Nothing to see here folks
          • Apr 2009
          • 5683

          #5
          Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

          I can also confirm that pass accuracy slider doesn't work either. I had it at 0 and saw little to no change.

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          • King Gro23
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            • Jan 2008
            • 2548

            #6
            Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

            Originally posted by oneamongthefence
            I can also confirm that pass accuracy slider doesn't work either. I had it at 0 and saw little to no change.

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            I am seeing it work with CPU ACC at 10-17
            QBs are within 77-45% 7 game sample.

            But it only works on certain players , haven’t found out if it’s abilities, or a true ratings threshold. I plan to test some of the top passers next round.

            The highest tier QB I’ve played is Brock Purdy


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            • Kramer5150
              Medicore Mike
              • Dec 2002
              • 7395

              #7
              Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

              Originally posted by oneamongthefence
              I can also confirm that pass accuracy slider doesn't work either. I had it at 0 and saw little to no change.

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              Throw in the HUM Run Block slider as well, currently playing on All Madden, use run block set at 0, and Najee STILL gains 5-7 yards pretty much every time.
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              • Playmakers
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 15418

                #8
                Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                Originally posted by Kramer5150
                Throw in the HUM Run Block slider as well, currently playing on All Madden, use run block set at 0, and Najee STILL gains 5-7 yards pretty much every time.
                Crazy ain't it

                EA has had years to rebuild the sliders and they choose to ignore it

                BTW I like pass accuracy at 10 in my earlier testing

                I also like the physics slider at 55
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                • Kramer5150
                  Medicore Mike
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7395

                  #9
                  Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                  Originally posted by Playmakers
                  Crazy ain't it

                  EA has had years to rebuild the sliders and they choose to ignore it

                  BTW I like pass accuracy at 10 in my earlier testing

                  I also like the physics slider at 55
                  Yep, it's actually pretty sad when you think about it, pass cov and reaction sliders are STILL as unresponsive as ever as well.

                  I think I'm using those same settings for CPU pass acc and the same with the physics slider.

                  Also of note, I'm still in "testing phase" and something to note, HUM Pass block is definitely "acting weird"?...I currently have it set to 70 for hum, and while the Steeler oline isn't the best, but running any kind of PA or give deep routes time to develop can be very frustrating.

                  With the setting being that high, you would THINK I would have some time, but about the only routes I am able to complete are the underneath and crossing routes...

                  At this point, I'm beginning to think it would be easier to compile a list of the sliders that are either not working or so unresponsive that adjusting is absolutely pointless.
                  Last edited by Kramer5150; 08-22-2024, 03:16 PM.
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                  • Gotmadskillzson
                    Live your life
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23441

                    #10
                    Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                    Originally posted by King Gro23
                    I am seeing it work with CPU ACC at 10-17
                    QBs are within 77-45% 7 game sample.

                    But it only works on certain players , haven’t found out if it’s abilities, or a true ratings threshold. I plan to test some of the top passers next round.

                    The highest tier QB I’ve played is Brock Purdy


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                    And where is your catch slider at ? Because I notice WR Catch slider has way more weight and more important to off target throws than QBA.

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                    • Gotmadskillzson
                      Live your life
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 23441

                      #11
                      Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      I wouldn't say ratings don't matter.

                      I think EA just makes the game extremely offensive heavy out of the box and default sliders are geared towards arcade play style.

                      What I wish they do is modify their game play sliders when a user selects Sumulation mode.

                      I'm not saying doing that will make game perfect but atleast if they had a few competent testers work on it they could release a game out of the box that plays some form of Simulation football.

                      As it stands now like every other year we have to spend hours, weeks or months fiddling with sliders just to a semi realistic football game
                      Yeah I don't understand why EA just don't copy NBA 2K setup. All their difficulty levels have different slider presets for said level. Madden and College everything is still 50 across the board no matter what difficulty level you choose.

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                      • Pikesburgh
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 91

                        #12
                        Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                        I'm on PS4 so maybe it's different than it is for you guys on current gen but I haven't had many problems with ratings not holding much weight. At least on PS4, there are plenty of factors that affect ratings besides actual ratings.

                        Sense Pressure Trait, QB style & High Motor affect every position. Not just QBs. Traits like "Oblivious" are sneaky. Oblivious means they don't sense pressure. If they don't sense pressure, they can't be affected by it. Make a RB "Paranoid", and they attempt more ball carrier moves, but they don't seem to find the holes as well as "Average" or anything higher than "Paranoid". Turn High Motor off on O-Lineman and they block better. High Motor on makes them more "aggressive" to where they ignore lineman in some scenarios and go straight for the LB.

                        As for sliders, some work in ways you wouldn't normally think of. Think of sliders as AI knowledge. When QBA is low, QBs think "I can't throw accurate, better throw short". This was more heavily weighted on older Maddens, but still held true on M24 for me. High Tackling makes for more aggressive tackle attempts but can actually lead to broken tackles when it's a guy with lower tackling. Low Tackle slider naturally makes for more broken tackles, but can make the AI go for more conservative tackles. Therefore making 60 Tackling vs 40 Tackling not as massive of a difference as one might think.

                        This is based off of my obsession with trying to make the 2001 NFL on modern Madden. I make custom playbooks and let CPU vs CPU play anytime I'm home and have an indoor project to do or just watching TV. CPU vs CPU is a good test because it shows exactly how the AI works, with no human input to influence it.

                        I either watch the game here and there or record it and skim through the plays after, when I'm doing testing.

                        The biggest reason I can give for why ratings matter (at least on PS4), is the stats. I use identical playbooks and test good 2001 teams vs bad 2001 teams. Almost every time, the better QB ratings wise has noticeably better stats. The starting running backs almost always have higher Yards Per Carry. The ratings I use for starters are about 70-99. Rarely anything under 70. Not a huge difference in ratings.

                        Maybe it's different for me on old gen, but the player traits and sliders can definitely affect things to where the ratings do matter.

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                        • Scioto2024
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                          • Aug 2024
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                          #13
                          Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                          QB might have issues

                          I put my backups in during blowouts twice, and they played like back ups

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                          • kingsofthevalley
                            MVP
                            • May 2011
                            • 1962

                            #14
                            Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                            Testing last night decided I would need to drop CPU QB Acc to 8 with HUM now at 15. I simply set the sliders and saved them as it was late and had to hit the bed. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out today. Previously had them set at CPU 15 / HUM at 23 and didnt see the inaccuracies I was looking for .

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                            • Kramer5150
                              Medicore Mike
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 7395

                              #15
                              Re: Ratings don't matter in Madden 25!!

                              Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
                              Testing last night decided I would need to drop CPU QB Acc to 8 with HUM now at 15. I simply set the sliders and saved them as it was late and had to hit the bed. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out today. Previously had them set at CPU 15 / HUM at 23 and didnt see the inaccuracies I was looking for .
                              Just a quick heads up, make sure you check your user settings as far as sliders go, because they WILL reset to default, I have also seen certain user sliders get pumped up to 100 even though I have them adjusted accordingly.

                              Even after saving, and shutting the game off the user sliders will revert back to default, the CPU sliders however are fine.
                              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
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