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  • duhitsrandy
    Pro
    • Jul 2011
    • 728

    #1

    correct pitch types

    so ive been doing a little research on the pitches they give people in this game and i feel like its way off. velocities are rarely right, along with most people having the same kind of pitches. it seems like if its a high rated players its always a circle change and a 12-6 curveball instead of a normal change up and normal curve. this along with the change ups usually only being a few mph diff than the fastball for some reason and most breaking balls anywhere from 4-10mph too fast.

    anyways i did the batting stance edit, and after a break that ended up being a few weeks longer than expected im going to finally get the pitching deliveries worked on. what i was wondering is does anyone else think that the pitchers are given the wrong pitches with wrong velocities? because ive been thinking about doing a list like the stances edit with the pitchers that need updates with their correct pitch types and velocities

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    Last edited by duhitsrandy; 05-10-2012, 02:10 AM.
  • Up and Coming
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 441

    #2
    Originally posted by duhitsrandy
    so ive been doing a little research on the pitches they give people in this game and i feel like its way off. velocities are rarely right, along with most people having the same kind of pitches. it seems like if its a high rated players its always a circle change and a 12-6 curveball instead of a normal change up and normal curve. this along with the change ups usually only being a few mph diff than the fastball for some reason and most breaking balls anywhere from 4-10mph too fast.

    anyways i did the batting stance edit, and after a break that ended up being a few weeks longer than expected im going to finally get the pitching deliveries worked on. what i was wondering is does anyone else think that the pitchers are given the wrong pitches with wrong velocities? because ive been thinking about doing a list like the stances edit with the pitchers that need updates with their correct pitch types and velocities
    Glad to hear! And yes velocities are way off as well as pitch types and tendencies, editing these plus player ratings could fix this game and potentially eliminate the small issues we have seen with mk harsh's spectacular
    Xbox One: Up and Coming
    PSN: TheSimulationGuy

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    • elimack
      Rookie
      • Nov 2010
      • 95

      #3
      Re: correct pitch types

      I have a spreadsheet with pitcher tendencies both starters/relievers fully complete, batting tendencies still in progress for both pitchers/batters. I'm more than willing to allow you guys access if you'd like it. Just PM me, and I can tell you where I got my numbers, etc...

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      • duhitsrandy
        Pro
        • Jul 2011
        • 728

        #4
        Re: correct pitch types

        cool cool im glad there is interest. ive noticed that pitchers like halladay had his change up at almost 90mph which was actually 2 mph higher than you can manually set it in the game, along with cliff lee's at 87, etc. along with most curveballs in the low 80's speed wise then they should be mid to high 70's.

        i plan to use something like pitchfx, or brookesbaseball, or fangraphs for the info. and based on a few numbers i ran before determine what the velocities should be, the tendencies, and the correct version of each pitch. it seems like most starting pitchers are given a 12-6 curveball, and while alot more people throw that nowadays it seems like its way over-represented in this game. as well as the circle change/changeup and other players just having the wrong pitches. (this is partly due to each pitcher having only 5 pitches when a pitcher throwing 6 pitches is fairly common)

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        • wudl83
          Pro
          • Jun 2011
          • 627

          #5
          Re: correct pitch types

          Originally posted by duhitsrandy
          anyways i did the batting stance edit, and after a break that ended up being a few weeks longer than expected im going to finally get the pitching deliveries worked on. what i was wondering is does anyone else think that the pitchers are given the wrong pitches with wrong velocities? because ive been thinking about doing a list like the stances edit with the pitchers that need updates with their correct pitch types and velocities
          I do think so, too. Not only that many pitch types and velocity are off. Often the pitch movement and control are off, too.

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          • duhitsrandy
            Pro
            • Jul 2011
            • 728

            #6
            Re: correct pitch types

            starting to make the list tonight, was gonna do all the deliveries first but i feel like thats more cosmetic where as this effects gameplay

            did the angels pitchers, took alot longer than i thought with checking 3 diff sites for each pitcher. lemme know what ya think and if you would like to see that for the whole league
            Last edited by duhitsrandy; 05-10-2012, 02:13 AM.

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            • wudl83
              Pro
              • Jun 2011
              • 627

              #7
              Re: correct pitch types

              Originally posted by duhitsrandy
              starting to make the list tonight, was gonna do all the deliveries first but i feel like thats more cosmetic where as this effects gameplay
              Really?
              Perhaps I misunderstood you but IMO since I changed certain pitch types including movement, control and speed to "reality" it plays way better than before.

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              • duhitsrandy
                Pro
                • Jul 2011
                • 728

                #8
                Re: correct pitch types

                Originally posted by wudl83
                Really?
                Perhaps I misunderstood you but IMO since I changed certain pitch types including movement, control and speed to "reality" it plays way better than before.
                no i meant id do the pitch types first because that affect gameplay.

                where as the batting stance/deliveries is cosmetic

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                • wudl83
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 627

                  #9
                  Re: correct pitch types

                  Originally posted by duhitsrandy
                  no i meant id do the pitch types first because that affect gameplay.

                  where as the batting stance/deliveries is cosmetic
                  Ok. Then I indeed did misunderstood your post.

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                  • Up and Coming
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 441

                    #10
                    This looks promising, are you doing bullpens and is there anyway to incorporate this into mk harsh's rosters
                    Xbox One: Up and Coming
                    PSN: TheSimulationGuy

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                    • duhitsrandy
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 728

                      #11
                      Re: correct pitch types

                      yea i did a few bullpen guys, i went through all the angels pitchers and the ones not listed are close enough. im trying to figure out a better format to type it all out in, since that seems a little sloppy.

                      and as far as i know the only way would be to manually input them. once im done the whole list ill get in contact with him to see what he thinks and if he wants to incorporate it but we have a whiles to go for that haha.

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                      • bugle987
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1289

                        #12
                        Re: correct pitch types

                        I have a roster with all pitchers with correct pitches and pitch speeds. It has AAA rosters and is based off MK

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