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  • sirwoodz
    Rookie
    • Mar 2007
    • 241

    #1

    Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

  • reddog01
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 55

    #2
    Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

    no surprise, game needs work, i will pass once again this year

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    • brendanrfoley
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 1552

      #3
      Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

      Well, it's a half-point improvement over last year.

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      • PVarck31
        Moderator
        • Jan 2003
        • 16948

        #4
        Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

        Thats rough. I think its much better than a 6.5.

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        • brendanrfoley
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 1552

          #5
          Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

          PJ, I'm sorry if I missed this -- but do you have it?

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          • Jistic
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 16406

            #6
            Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

            Originally posted by pjv31
            Thats rough. I think its much better than a 6.5.
            Yes and no. If it's patched properly, and quickly then yes. But they can only review the copy they have. I don't think you can have possible patches in mind when rating a game.

            We grilled games like NCAA for shipping last year with all their issues. I mean we roasted them. 2K/VC should be held to the same standard.

            I always am amazed that us gamers on this site can find all these issues within HOURS of a games release the devs either don't know about, or more likely don't feel is important enough to address until later with a patch.
            PSN: JISTIC_OS
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            • sirwoodz
              Rookie
              • Mar 2007
              • 241

              #7
              Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

              Originally posted by Jistic
              I always am amazed that us gamers on this site can find all these issues within HOURS of a games release the devs either don't know about, or more likely don't feel is important enough to address until later with a patch.
              - thank you kind sir. thank you.

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              • PVarck31
                Moderator
                • Jan 2003
                • 16948

                #8
                Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                Originally posted by brendanrfoley
                PJ, I'm sorry if I missed this -- but do you have it?
                No, but the demo is supposedly the same as retail, and I feel it plays a very good game of baseball.

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                • The Living Legend
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 228

                  #9
                  Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                  While your right we should hold 2k responsible, the main problem is 2ktried to incorparate all these ideas to sell the game and that are good on paper but are lacking on the field. 2k should of ironed out the core gameplay first then wory about all the other additions, there are so many problems within 2k, new developer horrible code and new game presentation and gameplay and with all that you gather new problems and since VC is the new developer they probably said hell with and put it out anyway knowing the problems that it had and hope they can patch it.

                  In this day in age not everyone is like us on this forum that really cares about baseball games, kids will buy it, hell alot of us will but it because a portion of it, is that its our only choice for us 360 owners. If VC was smart they should of used the Bigs models and stadiums and worry and hell maybe tweak there code on that, would probably run better then this decade old crap they call a next gen engine.

                  What makes it worse is that most likely i will pick this game up cause i need a baseball fix and hopefully with mass editing i can get the game to play the way i want. If it as bad as reviews our glitches keep acting up i will have to shell out the $300 when the PS3 drops and pick the other game.
                  Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal - Picasso

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                  • PVarck31
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16948

                    #10
                    Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                    I don't like to put to much stock into a review, but the more I think about it, a 6.5 could be right on. I mean I can't even play an exhibition game?? I have to constantly face the other teams ace. I play mostly exhibition games. I am almost sure the cpu batter problem will be fixed, but that still leaves the above, and the non-ability to edit players stances. Seeing the same stances over and over will drive me nuts. Almost forgot about the removal of some very important sliders. It looks like VC made a huge leap in some areas, but but totally fell off in others. I just don't get taking so much stuff out of the game.

                    As most of you know this was a day 1 buy for me. I hate to say it, but I am now on the fence.
                    Last edited by PVarck31; 03-01-2009, 04:50 PM.

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                    • SoxFan01605
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 7995

                      #11
                      Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                      Originally posted by pjv31
                      No, but the demo is supposedly the same as retail, and I feel it plays a very good game of baseball.
                      That's the thing though...the demo is fun in it's own right, but doesn't play a particularly good game of baseball IMO. There are too many issues that crop up to prevent it from really representing the sport well IMO. That's not to say it's bad...just nothing stood out from a gameplay standpoint.

                      I think when you review a game, you have to take all aspects into consideration. For example, controls and presentation would likely receive fairly good marks, while details and features of the game might score lower.

                      Remember too, they aren't going to spend the time with a game to see if slider adjustments and editing will alleviate out-of-the-box issues either. So a review could be fair in the most basic sense, but not accurate to what the end result would be for a more detailed user.

                      Heck, even BigFnJoe96 (who's an avid 2K baseballer) said pre-patch he'd give it around a 7. It's an improved game, but with it's own set of issues. Add in the fact that some seemingly basic features are mysteriously removed, and I'd expect to see a fair amount of lower review scores to be honest.

                      EDIT: just saw your most recent post. So are you "not" on the fence or "now" on the fence?
                      Last edited by SoxFan01605; 03-01-2009, 04:34 PM. Reason: added...

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                      • baa7
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11691

                        #12
                        Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                        Originally posted by The Living Legend
                        the main problem is 2ktried to incorparate all these ideas to sell the game and that are good on paper but are lacking on the field. 2k should of ironed out the core gameplay first then wory about all the other additions
                        What you just wrote is a carbon copy of what many people here wrote about 2K8. And what many people two years ago wrote about 2K7. And what people said about 2K6 as well. At some point, shouldn't this cease being a valid reason?

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                        • baa7
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11691

                          #13
                          Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                          Originally posted by pjv31
                          I mean I can't even play an exhibition game?? I have to constantly face the other teams ace.
                          There are two easy fixes for that prob, one recommended by you, the other by me.

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                          • baa7
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11691

                            #14
                            Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                            Originally posted by pjv31
                            It looks like VC made a huge leap in some areas, but but totally fell off in others. I just don't get taking so much stuff out of the game.
                            You sound like me and thousands of other gamers after playing the head-scratcher known as APF 2K8.

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                            • PVarck31
                              Moderator
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16948

                              #15
                              Re: Possible first review!! XBM - 6.5

                              Originally posted by baa7
                              There are two easy fixes for that prob, one recommended by you, the other by me.
                              LOL true, but its just the principle of the matter.

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