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**Flaxseed Oil** · 03-05-2012, 03:57 PM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Ok, so I have played about 7 or 8 games... here are my impressions.

The ball physics/hit variety is greatly improved
The framerate seems to have taken a hit. Not only after the ball is put in play, but when the pitcher is in his motion. I noticed it right away and thought maybe they had just slowed down CC's motion, but it's everyone...and it's maybe one out of every five or six pitches.
The player faces that they worked on look a lot better, but a lot of guys weren't even touched. Russell Martin and Freddy Garcia are just two examples I noticed.
Crowds look a little better and there arent as many 2D sections..there are some, but not as many.
It's definitely nice to see the scoreboards get an update.
Ball and Bat sounds are improved, but homeruns still kind of sound weird.
Players have a lot of weird animations. I saw a double play where Cano threw the ball to first while making a throwing motion towards Left Field.
The free agent bug from the previous renditions of the game is still present, where very few, if any, top level free agents ever make it to free agency.
The shadows look a little better.
The uniforms look a little worse.
There doesnt seem to be any new signature styles, that I could find anyway. My favorite part of this game was always the new player animations but not this year.

Overall, if you loved 2K11 - get it. If you didn't love 2k11, Pass on 2k12. If you were on the fence, pass on 2k12.

**Romain El 82** · 03-05-2012, 09:15 PM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Just turned a double play where Walker (2B) dove towards second after a grounder, flipped the ball from his stomach to the SS, then got the throw at first. Remarkable.

I get the feeling that the user baserunners are a tad slow compared to the CPU, so I turned the slider up one notch. Also, it seems the CPU makes these amazing diving stops too often, if that continues over the next five to seven games I'm going to make a change to that slider as well.

EDIT: Later on in the game, with the score deadlocked at 0 in the 6th, I was sitting on Vogelsong's 2-seam fastball, got it dead center of the zone, and smashed it out of the park with Garrett Jones (76 power). As he swung through the ball, he kinda fell backwards/took a step back, like he had put all this weight into the swing. Really cool.

That was my second HR in as many games (and overall, I might add), the first coming the game before from Barajas, which was a Grand Slam en route to an 8-0 win. That was pretty cool because after the Grand Slam, the pitchers were really timid and it seemed like the air had been taken out of the stadium and of the pitching staff.

**rckabillyRaider** · 03-05-2012, 11:00 PM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

I sent my proof to one of the mods but he has yet to respond, so I'll give this quick impression that has immediately jumped out at me. Playing it on PS3 (yes, I bought the other game as well), there is a very noticeable framerate blip when batting and you or the cpu makes contact with the ball.

**Romain El 82** · 03-06-2012, 12:39 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Originally posted by rckabillyRaider

I sent my proof to one of the mods but he has yet to respond, so I'll give this quick impression that has immediately jumped out at me. Playing it on PS3 (yes, I bought the other game as well), there is a very noticeable framerate blip when batting and you or the cpu makes contact with the ball.

It happens to me occasionally but it's always foul balls, for whatever reason. Not enough to bother me, though.

**Skyboxer** · 03-06-2012, 12:51 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Installing now. Hope to have a few impressions later tonight.

**rckabillyRaider** · 03-06-2012, 01:04 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Originally posted by Romain El 82

It happens to me occasionally but it's always foul balls, for whatever reason. Not enough to bother me, though.

Are you on ps3? It was happening to me enough that it was really annoying me and I am not a very nit-picky guy when it comes to my games. Gonna check it out some more in a bit

**Romain El 82** · 03-06-2012, 01:25 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Originally posted by rckabillyRaider

Are you on ps3? It was happening to me enough that it was really annoying me and I am not a very nit-picky guy when it comes to my games. Gonna check it out some more in a bit

Nope, XBox. It was worse for me before I went and got the "new" rosters weirdly enough (I got the game on Friday). Since then, it happens to me maybe once or twice a game.

**Sixampfuze** · 03-06-2012, 01:47 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

MLB 2k 12 on XBOX

- player faced have improved
- the crowd has improved
- the jerseys have improved
- pitching / hitting have improved
- commentary is still awesome

- OMG the Frame rate loss is horribe!!
After almost every hit and every pitch the game stutters. At one point it actually froze for a second.
- overall the graphics are bad
- cc sabathia looks like a character model from back yard baseball game.
- base running is too slow
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**celtics6** · 03-06-2012, 01:57 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

I bought it and it has lived up to my hype and what I expected. Graphics are not up to par with the other game. If you can look past that you will find a really impressive baseball game.

1st inning out of the box. Playing as the Royals, I laced a line drive down the line with Billy Butler that rattled around in the corner and drove in Alex Gordon from second, and right away knew this isn't the same game as last year. There are a ton of little things. The crowd stood up in the cheap seats far in the outfield and you could see them as the ball rattled around. It's pretty awesome if you can look past the surface stuff which is difficult to do sometimes.

yes its a next gen baseball game wrapped up in a last gen graphics engine but it's impressive nonetheless. Underneath its anything but last gen. The game is doing quite a bit it hasn't done in the past. The progessive lighting for one is awesome. The physics are awesome. What's going on underneath is great. But with that come issues.

People expecting a pretty to look at game are going to be disapointed. It's ugly to look at at times. The graphics are a mixed bag and can look really impressive at times to downright ugly like they left stuff in from previous versions that just should not be there. 2k really needs to hire a graphic artist for this game because it's so inconsistant. The player models can look better, to still downright awful. I swear it's like someone pasted a beard on a guy or a haircut that just didn't fit. Same with the stadiums. Like they pasted a wall that someone drew up using some generic paint program in the 3rd grade that has no right being there. On the other side of the fence some of the panned out shots or behind the batter shots, the stadiums can look downright amazing at times and put even the Show to shame as far as scope. The game just has a sense of space that the other game doesn't. The running animations are better but still floaty. It's trying but the hardware just can't do it. I come from playing games from way back though. It reminds me of pc gaming compared to arcade gaming back in the day where you would get those floaty animations sometimes and just ugliness. That's microsoft for you and the architecture we are dealing with though. General purpose cores vs risc proprietary hardware. There are some things the 360 just never will be able to do. IT just can't animate certain things on the fly like that to look seamless. The game can get really choppy and ugly or floaty at times.

Hopefully they patch this stuff because the game is choking pretty bad right now. It seems worse or better depending on which camera angle you are using. OVerall this game takes a lot of steps forward but is still a 2k baseball game with a lot of inconsistencies that can be frustrating. It's a mixed bag of steps forward and amazing things that no other game does, but at the same time there is that ugliness, unfinished quality and choppyness that really takes away from it. In the end it's still that game that is trying to get out of its shell of its former self but it's still left with remnances and is struggling to pull off the new as well. Fielding in the outfield is still a mixed bag where players don't jockey to their position to catch the ball seamlessly and get turned every which way.

It's that game I really want to like, because it's actually really good. But it's such a mishmash right now it's hard to score it. Even if a patch fixes most of the glaring flaws and framerate issues, its still going to be ugly in spots. Most people aren't going to want to deal with these things in this day and age.

**duhitsrandy** · 03-06-2012, 05:06 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Good:
- new pitching mechanics
- hitting the ball (timing matters) even pulled a few home runs already

- pitch tracker is a very nice addition even though it came to this game a little late
- new commentary is nice
- check swings!! (and other bug fixes)

Bad:
- frame rate issue (100% sure this has been fixed in the 3mb patch)
- minor league injuries still reset your lineups in franchise

**Skyboxer** · 03-06-2012, 05:27 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Played some and had "some" fun. The players models for the most part are embarrasing and the stuttering is God awful.

Fix the stuttering and I'm sure I'll get good use out of the game as I like the pitching and fielding.
Overall there's a decent game in there, but I'll have to wait for the patch to play it regularly.

Edit: just seen a patch is already out. Will play more after some sleep to check it out again

**celtics6** · 03-06-2012, 05:39 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

Just got the patch and the game is smooth as butter now. Take what I said and subtract the choppyness. The game is pretty awesome minus the usual 2k graphical inconsistencies. It's really smooth now. Still a next gen game with a dated engine on its surface but really impressive baseball game overall.

One thing that's still there is players are not advancing on passed balls and errors though. There are still some glitches here and there. But the game is really solid this year. I would even say it's awesome.

**Tomba** · 03-06-2012, 06:22 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

I wanted to make a statement rather than a impression first.

Cameras seem to fix the framerate issue. The new patch that came out just now this morning also make it seem as if it fixed the framerate as well.

That out of the way. gameplays pretty decent

**Tomba** · 03-06-2012, 08:11 AM

Re: MLB 2k12 - Impressions Thread (PS3/X360)

HOT
Camera angles and sound
Framerate fixed with patch and camera angles
Classic pitching is great
Catcher throw backs fixed 75% from last year
Stadiums looks great
Time of day,afternoon and night lighting is 10X better than last year.
Overcast games look spot on lighting wise and actually progress per inning.
Overcast day afternoon and night lighting is 10X better than last year.
Player shoes 10X better than in years previous
Commentary adds 25% more realism to the game
Marlins "tank" is awesome "fish!"
Overall color of the game is improved
Fielding is 10X better with the dynamic cam
Batters go through their whole batting motion and we no longer see that annoying flash to finish graphic. Makes pitching more enjoyable

NOT
Player Models
Player Faces
No ability to edit player weights individually only overall weight
Create a player is now 3 years old and has not seen improvements
Sponsors are generic and some have not changed for the last 3 years.

Honestly is you didnt play MLB 2K11 you'll be very happy with 2k12.
The player models and player faces are ugly (Ian Kinsler looks about 255 better though) but once you get past that everything around it very very solid and makes itself into a good playing baseball game for 360 users.

They improved EVERYTHING on the field aside for the player models and faces and it shows.

Best way to put it is like this.

Player models and faces in MLB 2k11 were hideous in MLB 2k12 they're ugly. So to me that's a 25% improvement.

Stadiums in MLB 2k11 were ok in MLB 2K12 they're pretty spot on. So to me that's a 50% improvement.

Fielding pitching and batting In MLB 2k11 was the same as MLB 2k9 and 10 in MLB 2k12 it feels different and feels smoother thanks to the cameras and framerate fixes so to me that's a 25% improvement.

Atmosphere lighting and time progression in MLB 2k11 was passable at best but looked dated by about 2 years in MLB 2K12 this has been REVAMPED and was not included in the list of fixes for MLB 2K12 so its such a welcome and the biggest surprise to me, so to me that's a 75% improvement and makes MLB 2k12 the best in the series for me and captures some of that MLB 2k7 awe we all once had....