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  • NiteLordz
    Rookie
    • Dec 2005
    • 471

    #1

    Jiminez Attributes

    Ok, i know most people do not like to edit the attributes based on only a few games, but we are looking at two months of pure domination.

    My question is, for his pitches, specifically the fastball(s) he throws, where there is so much break vertically and horizontaly what pitch should this be and what attributes should he have for his pitches.

    Also where do you think his K/9 should be and the others in this category.

    Enjoy
  • El_MaYiMbE
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1427

    #2
    Re: Jiminez Attributes

    Originally posted by NiteLordz
    Ok, i know most people do not like to edit the attributes based on only a few games, but we are looking at two months of pure domination.

    My question is, for his pitches, specifically the fastball(s) he throws, where there is so much break vertically and horizontaly what pitch should this be and what attributes should he have for his pitches.

    Also where do you think his K/9 should be and the others in this category.

    Enjoy

    His main FB should be the 2 seamer. Although it has some vertical movement the 2 seam has some downward and and horizontal movement all in one.


    His K/9 should be bumped up about 5-7 points and his H/9 as well.

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    • NiteLordz
      Rookie
      • Dec 2005
      • 471

      #3
      Re: Jiminez Attributes

      The problem is he has a 4 seam fastball that slides, not so much that it runs... and he also has a two seam fastball in addition to that.

      i know break doesn't do anything to the four seam fastball, at least i don't think it does when i was playing around with it.

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      • 417alum
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 322

        #4
        Re: Jiminez Attributes

        Originally posted by NiteLordz
        The problem is he has a 4 seam fastball that slides, not so much that it runs... and he also has a two seam fastball in addition to that.

        i know break doesn't do anything to the four seam fastball, at least i don't think it does when i was playing around with it.
        Contrary to public belief the 4 seam does break. If you have a pitcher who throws over 95 mph, and you throw it high in the zone it will break up. In real life you saw this with Nolan Ryan, and in the game I always see it with Jonathon Broxton. As for ratings I would give him a 98 K Rating, 99 H/9 Rating, and a 90 HR/9 Rating. It's hard to judge his stamina and base on balls rating, but he is the best pitcher in baseball by far.

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        • NiteLordz
          Rookie
          • Dec 2005
          • 471

          #5
          Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't a 99 rating on h/9 a bad thing ?

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          • 417alum
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 322

            #6
            Re: Jiminez Attributes

            Originally posted by NiteLordz
            Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't a 99 rating on h/9 a bad thing ?
            No 99 is the highest you can get.

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            • 417alum
              Banned
              • Jul 2009
              • 322

              #7
              Re: Jiminez Attributes

              Originally posted by NiteLordz
              Ok, i know most people do not like to edit the attributes based on only a few games, but we are looking at two months of pure domination.

              My question is, for his pitches, specifically the fastball(s) he throws, where there is so much break vertically and horizontaly what pitch should this be and what attributes should he have for his pitches.

              Also where do you think his K/9 should be and the others in this category.

              Enjoy

              For pitches I have
              Running Fastball: 99(Speed), 74 (Control), 97 (Break)...(These are Ratings)
              Sweeping Curve: 99,77,96
              Slider:81,67,88
              Changeup:0,61,81
              Sinker:99,62,83

              Ratings:
              Stamina:99
              Pitching Clutch:86
              H/9:97
              HR/9:89
              K/9:98
              BB/9:71

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              • uf2005
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 65

                #8
                Re: Jiminez Attributes

                Originally posted by 417alum
                Contrary to public belief the 4 seam does break. If you have a pitcher who throws over 95 mph, and you throw it high in the zone it will break up. In real life you saw this with Nolan Ryan, and in the game I always see it with Jonathon Broxton. As for ratings I would give him a 98 K Rating, 99 H/9 Rating, and a 90 HR/9 Rating. It's hard to judge his stamina and base on balls rating, but he is the best pitcher in baseball by far.
                Not to get super technical but your statement of the "break" of a four seamer is only partially true. The ball does not actually rise, it just falls at a lesser rate. The increased backspin decreases the rate at which the pitch falls. So it appears to rise to the hitter. Nonetheless it can be super nasty spin if combined with high velocity.

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                • Jason_19
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 1713

                  #9
                  Re: Jiminez Attributes

                  Originally posted by 417alum
                  Running Fastball: 99(Speed), 74 (Control), 97 (Break)...(These are Ratings)
                  Sweeping Curve: 99,77,96
                  Is there a reason why you gave his curveball more control than his fastball?

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                  • 417alum
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 322

                    #10
                    Re: Jiminez Attributes

                    Originally posted by Jason_19
                    Is there a reason why you gave his curveball more control than his fastball?
                    He seems to hit his spots better with his Curve/Slurve, and It could be higher it's whatever.

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                    • El_MaYiMbE
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1427

                      #11
                      Re: Jiminez Attributes

                      Originally posted by 417alum
                      He seems to hit his spots better with his Curve/Slurve, and It could be higher it's whatever.

                      Still dont think he has MORE control over his curve than his FB.

                      I agree, he does go to the curve when he needs a strike, but I think when he is on (which he has been all year) he can throw that FB where ever he wants it.

                      He threw Lincecum (sp?) a nasty FB yesterday on 3-2 count that I dont even think Pujols couldve hit, let alone a sorry pitcher at the dish.

                      That thing moved from middle plate, thigh high to the outer side of the plate about belt high...AWAY from hitter @ 97 mph..... WtF!? Nasty!

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                      • jkra0512
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2277

                        #12
                        Re: Jiminez Attributes

                        Originally posted by 417alum
                        For pitches I have
                        Running Fastball: 99(Speed), 74 (Control), 97 (Break)...(These are Ratings)
                        Sweeping Curve: 99,77,96
                        Slider:81,67,88
                        Changeup:0,61,81
                        Sinker:99,62,83

                        Ratings:
                        Stamina:99
                        Pitching Clutch:86
                        H/9:97
                        HR/9:89
                        K/9:98
                        BB/9:71
                        I know he's been a dominating pitcher this year but that looks a little ridiculous with all those 99's and other 90's. If that's your interpretation then that's cool, but I couldn't put that into my game.

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                        • TripleThreat1973
                          Pro
                          • May 2007
                          • 564

                          #13
                          Re: Jiminez Attributes

                          Originally posted by NiteLordz
                          Ok, i know most people do not like to edit the attributes based on only a few games, but we are looking at two months of pure domination.

                          My question is, for his pitches, specifically the fastball(s) he throws, where there is so much break vertically and horizontaly what pitch should this be and what attributes should he have for his pitches.

                          Also where do you think his K/9 should be and the others in this category.

                          Enjoy
                          Oh come on, didn't you chronic ratings tweakers learn anything from Volquez, Hamilton, and Bruce?

                          "Regression to the Mean". Learn it, understand it. 2 months of baseball is still just that, 2 months.

                          He's a good enough pitcher without having his stats tweaked based on what he's done so far. Jonathan Broxton and carlos marmol have been just as dominant, if not moreso. Please don't go changing their ratings either.

                          marmol has struck out 49% of the batters he's faced and is racking up a 17 K/9, which is absolutely ridiculous.
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                          • TripleThreat1973
                            Pro
                            • May 2007
                            • 564

                            #14
                            Re: Jiminez Attributes

                            For more recent reference ...

                            Compare Dan Haren's 2009 1st half versus his 2nd half.

                            Long season. Bob Gibson had his 1.12 season in an extreme pitcher's era. So extreme he had 8 losses in that miraculous season.

                            Ubaldo will normalize more towards his career averages as the season goes on.

                            Does anyone rerate players on their team when they are doing horrific in MLB?*grin*
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                            • Erick
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 128

                              #15
                              Re: Jiminez Attributes

                              Originally posted by NiteLordz
                              The problem is he has a 4 seam fastball that slides, not so much that it runs... and he also has a two seam fastball in addition to that.

                              i know break doesn't do anything to the four seam fastball, at least i don't think it does when i was playing around with it.
                              If that's the case then he would get a cut fastball instead of a running fastball no? I haven't watched him enough to gauge his fastball but if his fastball moves glove-side then he would then receive a cutter to replicate that "slide" motion you are referring to.

                              In comparison, The Yankees relief pitcher David Robertson has a similar fastball in that it has natural cutting action to it. I wonder if that is what you are talking about when you talking about a fastball that "slides"
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