MLB '07: New hitting camera?

[Drew127]

It would be great if the developers added a new hitting camera, one that is similar to the Hitter's Eye cam in MVP '05. All the hitting angles in the game now have the pitcher too far away. The Hitter's Eye cam is great because it is zoomed in. Maybe the developers will add a similar cam in '07. Maybe they will see this post and like the idea

[baa7]

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You mean BTP? Because The Show has a zoomed in BTB cam (as well as one with the pitcher zoomed out). I can't imagine hitting with the pitcher appearing any closer than that.

Hard Ball 97 had a nice BTB cam where the batter was only visable from the knees up. But the pitcher still looked like he was standing 60 feet away.

[Drew127]

Re: MLB '07: New hitting camera?

You mean BTP? Because The Show has a zoomed in BTB cam (as well as one with the pitcher zoomed out). I can't imagine hitting with the pitcher appearing any closer than that.

Hard Ball 97 had a nice BTB cam where the batter was only visable from the knees up. But the pitcher still looked like he was standing 60 feet away.

No I meant behind the catcher. It's hard to explain, but something about the hitter's eye view in MVP was just great. I think it's a hitting camera that should come standard in any baseball game. It's more the focal point that makes it great, then how much it is zoomed in, if that makes any sense.

I also liked how the camera was tilted in favor of handedness. Like for a lefty/lefty matchup, the camera would be tilted to give the hitter less of an advantage, etc. Pretty cool concept.

[aukevin]

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The hardest thing I had with The Show was picking up the break of pitches, probably because I was so used to MVP's pitching style. I would like to see something that helps me see the pitch breaks on this game for sure.

[sask3m]

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i don't care for the hitting cams in mlb, i find them to high, i would like to see something similar to hh or the hh cams modded for mvp, lower to help distinguish from high and low pitches.

[chuckm1961]

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Yes, yes, yes. Agree, agree, agree. We need more camera options. Especially at lower angles, and with a view (Hitter's Eye-like) that makes the pitcher larger so you can follow his motion and delivery more easily.This is CRUCIAL to any playable baseball game. I can deal with poor animations for fielding (which this game has), but I will not play video baseball games that don't give me proper angles to see and hit the ball.

[Shogun Assassin]

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The hardest thing I had with The Show was picking up the break of pitches, probably because I was so used to MVP's pitching style. I would like to see something that helps me see the pitch breaks on this game for sure.

I also had problems picking up the break of the pitches at first. They should have an option to have a little red line on the ball when it's pitched to represent the hitter picking up the spin of the seams. The angle of the line would be different according to pitch type, and it could be more faded or pronounced depending on the batter/pitcher matchup.

[silver540i]

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Why just 1 to 3 camera options? Why not make it like NBA2k and give like 30 options for hitting/fielding/pitching? Or make a user-defined camera. Just make everyone happy. :-)

[CMH]

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Why just 1 to 3 camera options? Why not make it like NBA2k and give like 30 options for hitting/fielding/pitching? Or make a user-defined camera. Just make everyone happy. :-)

Yea, it really is about time that user-defined cameras become the norm in sport video games.

[e0820]

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I also had problems picking up the break of the pitches at first. They should have an option to have a little red line on the ball when it's pitched to represent the hitter picking up the spin of the seams. The angle of the line would be different according to pitch type, and it could be more faded or pronounced depending on the batter/pitcher matchup.

Wouldnt something like this make learning this game too easy? I mean once a game gets to easy it isnt fun anymore right?

No helpers work for me, if they do adopt something like this, atleast have the option to turn it off

[Drew127]

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Wouldnt something like this make learning this game too easy? I mean once a game gets to easy it isnt fun anymore right?

No helpers work for me, if they do adopt something like this, atleast have the option to turn it off

I somewhat agree with you about "helpers". But that is a loose definition. In terms of baseball games, I think things like the Hitter's Eye in MVP and the idea mentioned above are good features, and if they are implemented correctly they make the games more realistic.

It's a known fact that in baseball, hitters can pick up pitches. Some are better than others, sometimes the pitcher gives it away, etc. Some hitters can read a pitch based on the spin of the ball, sometimes pitchers "tip" pitches by the way they hold the ball. So I don't think it's a bad thing for game developers to try to implement this into games. But, they can do it right by leaving some of it to chance.

For example, don't always 100% guarantee that a pitch is coming in a certain way. With the hitter's eye in MVP, a color meant a certain type of pitch was coming (fastball, breaking ball, offspead). And if the pitch flashed that color, there was no chance the pitch type was anything other than the color it was indicated by.

To try to expand on the concept of the hitter's eye in MVP, developers could do things such as use different extremes for colors to indicate the probability that the pitch was read correctly. For example, bright red could indicate that the hitter read the pitch well and is 90% sure a breaking ball is coming. A less vibrant color could indicate that the hitter got a brief read of the pitch but isn't assured to have guessed correctly.

And, to run with this idea a little more, developers could account for pitchers who are very good at deceiving hitters. Such pitchers could consistenly trick the hitter into thinking a fastball is coming, but really it's the offspeed stuff. In cases like this, the color indicating the pitch type could be completely wrong. In fact, this could really make a video game simulate the difference between a dominating pitcher and a run-of-the-mill 4th starter or middle reliever. It could give the user a true glimpse of how different it is to face an ace than it is to face the 5th starter. This has yet to be captured in a video game. When I play a baseball video game, a pitcher is a pitcher, and I rarely change my game plan to account for who I'm facing. This would be a welcome change.

It goes without saying that ratings could be tied in. Some hitters see the ball better than others, some pitchers tip their pitches more than others. I do think that features giving the user the ability to read the pitch are great, they aren't just "helpers", they add realism to the game. There are certainly right and wrong ways to implement the idea though.

[e0820]

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It goes without saying that ratings could be tied in. Some hitters see the ball better than others, some pitchers tip their pitches more than others. I do think that features giving the user the ability to read the pitch are great, they aren't just "helpers", they add realism to the game. There are certainly right and wrong ways to implement the idea though.

I guess it would be ok if it were more obvious to the in-game players that can pick up on it better or for in-game pitchers who give it away (meaning what you see depends on who is up or on the mound). Rather then it being there solely for the user controlling the team to gain an advantage.