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  • swaldo
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1268

    #1

    Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

    Today I felt like messing around and having some fun with the game. Unfortunately what I stumbled across was not what I was hoping to see.

    I played a game with Boston (myself controlling) at Cubs (CPU controlling.) The settings were default veteran with default sliders and default rosters. My goal was to put Big Pappi on the mount to see what would happen.

    Prior to the start of the game I put Papi on the bench with Beckett as the starting pitcher. Then, when it was Beckett's turn to bat I replaced him with Ortiz as the pinch hitter. After the inning is over Ortiz will then be on the mound unless you make a change in the bullpen. Away we go and I wonder how fast it will take for the big man to get rocked & knocked.

    Instead, he pitched an absolute gem - 6 innings pitched and 1 hit! I used the pitching meter and my approach was realistic - to nibble outside of batters hot zones and throw strikes in cold zones. There were 2 pitches available to me - a fastball and changeup. The fastball generally ranged from 77-80MPH. Towards the end of the game I remember his fastball topped out around 78 but his changeup was 83 with full power.

    I lost the game on purpose 2-1. Why? Because I've heard in some threads that if you are behind the CPU lets you catch up and if the CPU is behind the comeback logic kicks in and it will play catch up (and yes comeback option was set to off.) Keeping the score close with the CPU in the lead let me see if this theory held up. I'll let others share their thoughts on this but something is funny - at least in veteran mode.

    In addition, my stamina was empty and I don't remember if I ever even had stamina. My confidence bar started around 70% and the deeper it got in the game the higher it got and eventually topped out and stayed there. The green bar (not sure what it's for) started full and gradually went to empty after around 4 innings pitched. Below are screen shots and a video for anyone that doesn't beleive this.

    Also, if anyone thinks they gave him some juice because Big Papi is a stud that is not the case. I also tried this with the Angels tiny Maciel Izturis pitching and his changeup is one nasty pitch. The results were similiar - 2 innings pitched, one hit, no runs, 1 strike-out and several swings & misses.

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  • ThaBlazer
    Rookie
    • Feb 2003
    • 223

    #2
    Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

    Soxs got another ace...I cant deal with this lol (obvious Yankees fan)

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    • Maynard
      Banned
      • Feb 2007
      • 831

      #3
      Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

      man....all this to show that the game is way to easy on veteran level?

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      • Rebel10
        MVP
        • Jan 2003
        • 1162

        #4
        Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

        Hmmmm... that's really weird.

        This wouldn't effect my game all that much because I won't ever keep a batter in to pitch unless it's a Dave McCarty extra inning situation and I have to... but those are few and far between and that's odd.

        I guess online this could be a prob if David Ortiz can pitch as well as Josh Beckett.

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        • Rebel10
          MVP
          • Jan 2003
          • 1162

          #5
          Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

          Hmmmm... that's really weird.

          This wouldn't effect my game all that much because I won't ever keep a batter in to pitch unless it's a Dave McCarty extra inning situation and I have to... but those are few and far between and that's odd.

          I guess online this could be a prob if David Ortiz can pitch as well as Josh Beckett.

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          • Maynard
            Banned
            • Feb 2007
            • 831

            #6
            Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

            you can say that again

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            • swaldo
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 1268

              #7
              Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

              Originally posted by Maynard
              man....all this to show that the game is way to easy on veteran level?
              A games default level should ideally offer the most realistic challenge with true ratings in effect. If veteran level in the Show is equivalent to rookie mode with watered down ratings then what level equals the most realistic challenge?

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              • michaeldu
                Banned
                • Feb 2004
                • 762

                #8
                Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                Do the same thing on Legend

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                • mgoblue678
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3371

                  #9
                  Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                  ^^I don't think it should happen on Veteran though.
                  My Teams

                  College: Michigan Wolverines
                  NHL: Detroit Red Wings
                  NBA:Detroit Pistons
                  MLB: Detroit Tigers

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                  • Maynard
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 831

                    #10
                    Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                    Originally posted by swaldo
                    A games default level should ideally offer the most realistic challenge with true ratings in effect. If veteran level in the Show is equivalent to rookie mode with watered down ratings then what level equals the most realistic challenge?

                    according to what the developers have said here, hall of fame is the most realistic level

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                    • sox73b3
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 412

                      #11
                      Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                      This is kind of a bummer, I want to try this myself at the higher levels.

                      It makes you wonder what other crazy things are possible, one pet peeve of mine has always been players out of position. If you put a catcher in the game as a SS the result should be an error just about everytime he touches the ball, but I bet you can do this without even noticing.

                      All in all, it doesn't really matter because most people play game straight, but if I accidentally leave a pinch hitter in the game at a wrong position or as a pitcher I would like it to be obvious right away.

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                      • swaldo
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1268

                        #12
                        Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                        Here's an example of the comeback mode in action....

                        The video shown below is from the same game as the one Papi pitched in. The situation is Boston at the plate in the top of the 9th losing 2-1. Man on first and Padroia at the plate. I have Pedroia sac bunt the man over to 2nd. The result screams "C'mon man, I'm trying to let you back in the game here."

                        No position players should be allowed to walk all over batters. SCEA can fix that but I think the real issue has to do with the comeback thing. I think it's broken in veteran mode - it's supposed to be turned off but I think the results on the field are dictated by the score. If you are winning the CPU comes back to make it challenging. If you are losing it picks you back up.

                        In other words if I were beating up the CPU and used Ortiz to pitch he would've been rocked like he would in real life. The computer realized I was losing so it didn't matter who was pitching - they will pitch like an ace.

                        If anything due to this I will be moving up to All Star or HOF level. If the same sort of things happen there it will be a game killer for me.

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                        • slickkill77
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 583

                          #13
                          Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                          That's not necessarily true. Yes if you put Bengie Molina or Yadier then there would be a lot of miss played balls and errors but you have to remember these guys are athletes. That's why a guy like Ty Wiggington can play 1b, 2b, 3b, and Of. Or pitchers can become Of's, or Of's can become infielders.

                          Obviously SS is a much harder position but this isn't like the little leagues. Guys can play different positions they just may not be great at it.


                          David Ortiz pitching is different though. Either turn off the comeback option or don't use David Ortiz as a pitcher....
                          Last edited by slickkill77; 03-09-2009, 04:14 PM.

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                          • swaldo
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1268

                            #14
                            Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                            Again, the comeback option was turned off. It is turned off by default and I even made sure it was turned off prior to the game. My point is that comeback is still there although it's turned off in the game - at least in veteran level.

                            I have seen position players pitch successfully in real MLB games. Heck, I even saw a guy strike out 2 who was goofing around - throwing high arcing 20 MPH softball style lobs. However, most will get creamed especially throwing 78 MPH fastballs for 6 innings.
                            Last edited by swaldo; 03-09-2009, 04:27 PM.

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                            • moemoe24
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1996

                              #15
                              Re: Big Papi David Ortiz throws a one hit gem!

                              Originally posted by Maynard
                              according to what the developers have said here, hall of fame is the most realistic level
                              I didnt know the developers said that, but no doubt HOF is the most realistic, for me anyway. Allstar seems a little too easy to hit, even with sliders, but HOF gives me a great, great game. CPU hitting is a little too good but I have adjusted the CPU contact and solid hits sliders and have had fabulous games.

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