Starting pitchers stamina not full for start.

[rondoman]

Anyone else seeing this?

I am about 10 games into my franchise and I have seen that even though I use a 5 man rotation, the starters stamina is not all the way full for their next start.

I have starter stamina at 7 as well.

Anyone?

[cienfuegos]

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Yeah. For me this seems to be both the number of days off (sometimes there is an extra day between series for travel or what not) and how many innings/pitches the starter went through in the previous start. On top of all that, you have to go easy on the meter I have found. It will tire out your pitchers more if you go deep in the red every pitch. Hope that helps

[countryboy]

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To me it seems to be due to shoulder/arm fatigue. For instance, if I push a guy "beyond his limits" then he is a little fatigued for his next scheduled start. Not sure if thats exactly what it is, but it seems to be the case at least from what I've seen.

[19]

Re: Starting pitchers stamina not full for start.

To me it seems to be due to shoulder/arm fatigue. For instance, if I push a guy "beyond his limits" then he is a little fatigued for his next scheduled start. Not sure if thats exactly what it is, but it seems to be the case at least from what I've seen.

I have noticed the exact same thing. I'm sure Durability has something to do with it too, thats why I'm interested to see RaZRs stamina edits.

[bkrich83]

Re: Starting pitchers stamina not full for start.

To me it seems to be due to shoulder/arm fatigue. For instance, if I push a guy "beyond his limits" then he is a little fatigued for his next scheduled start. Not sure if thats exactly what it is, but it seems to be the case at least from what I've seen.

This has been my observation in past versions.

Since none of my starters lasts that long in my current season it's not a problem.

[AWS88]

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I've seen it too. I've turned up pitcher stamina which hasn't fixed it. Not even a month into the season and my pitchers cant start a game rested.

Yep, most realistic baseball game ever. /sarcasm

[countryboy]

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I've seen it too. I've turned up pitcher stamina which hasn't fixed it. Not even a month into the season and my pitchers cant start a game rested.

Yep, most realistic baseball game ever. /sarcasm

lol..I like how anytime someone has an issue with the game they immediately quote the marketing line.

Anyhow, back to the "issue", is it happening for all your starters or just a few? I never had Carpenter nor Wainwright start a game without full stamina during my first season. The main culprit would be Pinerio, especially if he pitched well over 100 pitches his previous outing(he tires out around 75-85). Lohse did it a time or two as did Wellemeyer, though one of his was because he was moved up in the rotation at one point.

[countryboy]

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something else to think about...what transportation are you guys using? This could have an effect as well.

[KingV2k3]

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I have the chartered plane and it still happens...

With the Giants, Randy Johnson, Zito and to a lesser extent Sanchez are ocaasionally a bit less than "100 percent" if there's been no day off break in the 5 man rotation for a couple weeks...

Lincecum and Cain (younger, stronger arms) are always at full bar for their starts on regular rest...

To me it adds to the realism because not everyone is at 100 percent just because their 4 days have passed amd it forces you to employ the real life strategy option of using a spot starter a handful of times a season...

[AWS88]

Re: Starting pitchers stamina not full for start.

lol..I like how anytime someone has an issue with the game they immediately quote the marketing line.

Anyhow, back to the "issue", is it happening for all your starters or just a few? I never had Carpenter nor Wainwright start a game without full stamina during my first season. The main culprit would be Pinerio, especially if he pitched well over 100 pitches his previous outing(he tires out around 75-85). Lohse did it a time or two as did Wellemeyer, though one of his was because he was moved up in the rotation at one point.

If it was just one problem, yeah, it'd be ridiculous to quote the marketing line in a sarcastic way, but there are a ton of issues with this game to make the marketing line seem like total bull lol.

Anyways, it happens with every one of my starters. I usually pitch for contact, so my pitch count never gets to be that high. That being said, the deepest i've ever went into a game with a starter is 7 innings, but usually they leave the game after 5 or 6. Even after a day off (and this being after I was very conservative with my starters) they were still fatigued for their next start.

[bkrich83]

Re: Starting pitchers stamina not full for start.

If it was just one problem, yeah, it'd be ridiculous to quote the marketing line in a sarcastic way, but there are a ton of issues with this game to make the marketing line seem like total bull lol.

Anyways, it happens with every one of my starters. I usually pitch for contact, so my pitch count never gets to be that high. That being said, the deepest i've ever went into a game with a starter is 7 innings, but usually they leave the game after 5 or 6. Even after a day off (and this being after I was very conservative with my starters) they were still fatigued for their next start.

So what game has been more realistic? Just out of curiosity.

[pfunk880]

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I have the chartered plane and it still happens...

With the Giants, Randy Johnson, Zito and to a lesser extent Sanchez are ocaasionally a bit less than "100 percent" if there's been no day off break in the 5 man rotation for a couple weeks...

Lincecum and Cain (younger, stronger arms) are always at full bar for their starts on regular rest...

To me it adds to the realism because not everyone is at 100 percent just because their 4 days have passed amd it forces you to employ the real life strategy option of using a spot starter a handful of times a season...

I absolutely agree with this. It also presents choices like possibly skipping your fifth starter if you have an off day. Most fifth starters aren't going to be able to throw over 100 pitches and be in perfect condition for the next game. If you send them out there a little tired, they probably will just have to pitch a slightly shorter outing... it doesn't mean they can't start the game at all if their stamina isn't perfect, they just won't be quite as effective. Again, realistic. Unless you are Roy Halladay, you will probably be a little worn down in your next start after a long outing. Look what happened to Wood and Prior in real life under the watchful eye of Dusty Baker.

If it was just one problem, yeah, it'd be ridiculous to quote the marketing line in a sarcastic way, but there are a ton of issues with this game to make the marketing line seem like total bull lol.

Anyways, it happens with every one of my starters. I usually pitch for contact, so my pitch count never gets to be that high. That being said, the deepest i've ever went into a game with a starter is 7 innings, but usually they leave the game after 5 or 6. Even after a day off (and this being after I was very conservative with my starters) they were still fatigued for their next start.

Do you use meter or classic pitching? If you use meter, are you filling it up all the way on every pitch? I usually go just up to the start of the yellow, unless I'm trying to put a little extra on it. So far, stamina seems fine to me.

So what game has been more realistic? Just out of curiosity.

You beat me to it BK. The tagline fits, IMO. They never said it was a perfect, bug free game (for the record, it would be the first bug free game in history if that was a true statement).

[AWS88]

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So what game has been more realistic? Just out of curiosity.

Just about any High Heat game for PC.

[AWS88]

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I absolutely agree with this. It also presents choices like possibly skipping your fifth starter if you have an off day. Most fifth starters aren't going to be able to throw over 100 pitches and be in perfect condition for the next game. If you send them out there a little tired, they probably will just have to pitch a slightly shorter outing... it doesn't mean they can't start the game at all if their stamina isn't perfect, they just won't be quite as effective. Again, realistic. Unless you are Roy Halladay, you will probably be a little worn down in your next start after a long outing. Look what happened to Wood and Prior in real life under the watchful eye of Dusty Baker.

Do you use meter or classic pitching? If you use meter, are you filling it up all the way on every pitch? I usually go just up to the start of the yellow, unless I'm trying to put a little extra on it. So far, stamina seems fine to me.


You beat me to it BK. The tagline fits, IMO. They never said it was a perfect, bug free game (for the record, it would be the first bug free game in history if that was a true statement).

I use classic pitching, and rarely hold the button down beyond minimal effort.

I would also like to add, if this was happening later on in the season, I would have no problem with it. However, every pitcher in the Braves lineup is already worn out after 3 starts? I mean, Lowe and Vazquez are known to be able to eat up quite a few innings over the course of a season, so to see them already tired at the beginning of their lasts starts in April isn't quite right.

[Knight165]

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Man....that rose colored glasses store has been VERY busy lately.


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