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  • n8rockerasu
    Banned
    • Apr 2005
    • 77

    #1

    ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

    I'm making this post because sadly, it's become necessary. I've waited patiently for the past month to hear word on a third patch, to hopefully fix the "Sounds of the Show" song limit problem once and for all (anyone not aware...while you can now add over 245 songs to your playlist, any song you ASSIGN to a player over that number will not play, and a random song will play instead).

    And to also address the many issues with online leagues (standings do not display correctly. The standings screen shows something completely different from the main league screen and the league website, free agents are duplicated in fantasy draft leagues, and the draft itself is a complete mess, scheduling neither the date nor time correctly...and not displaying the draft order correctly during the draft).

    I've diligently reported each of these issues in the "bugs & glitches" thread as instructed, but have read nothing in terms of coming fixes or even an acknowledgment that the issues exist. In the meantime, I've played the game, worked on my player walk ups sound pack, and ran a league as best I could given the current limitations. Simply put, I've tried to enjoy the game.

    But over the past two days, as I shifted attention back to my franchise, I ran into a problem that I cannot and refuse to overlook. At the beginning of an inning, usually late in the game, I'd press "select" to check my pitcher's pitch count. Three times in the past 24 hours, doing this has caused my system to freeze, requiring a hard shutdown by pressing the power button on the front of my PS3.

    Obviously, you can tell me "don't do that". But for one thing, it's habit. Late in the game, I want to know where my pitcher stands and if I need to get a reliever warming. More importantly, this is a glitch that SHOULD NOT happen...especially at almost two months since the game was released. We really should be far beyond the point of having system freezing bugs in this game. The fact that we're not is both embarrassing and pathetic. Clearly, this is a good baseball game...and it always gets good reviews. But with all these fundamental problems in the programming, it seriously makes me question whether the development team has grown arrogant and/or complacent with what it means to create a good video game.

    You can have all the frills and modes and statistics and graphics you want, but when the two places to view league standings inside your own game don't match up, or pressing a button at the "wrong time" locks up the entire system, something is drastically wrong. In my honest opinion, I feel like SCEA's priorities are completely out of whack because I, for one, would much rather have a more stable game instead of Rule 5 Drafts and a Home Run Derby. I really hope these issues get fixed. But as of right now, I'm disappointed with the direction this team has taken, and won't be supporting this game next year.

    Hopefully, no one in the OS community takes offense to this. I tried to be as objective and respectful as possible. And the biggest thing to remember, I'm not making any of these issues up. Thank you for reading.
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52852

    #2
    Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

    did the freeze occur in Tropicana Field?
    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


    Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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    • n8rockerasu
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 77

      #3
      Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

      Originally posted by countryboy
      did the freeze occur in Tropicana Field?
      Twice in Tropicana, once in Fenway.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52852

        #4
        Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

        Originally posted by n8rockerasu
        Twice in Tropicana, once in Fenway.
        Here's the workaround...

        -"When playing games at Tropicana Field....my game freezes"
        The freeze seems to occur by accessing a bullpen (home or away) and then pressing select at any point after leaving the bullpen screen (it doesn't matter if you make pitchers start warming up or if you do absolutely nothing while in the bullpen); the instant you press select, the game will freeze. Even throwing a pitch or getting to the next batter in the order won't fix the problem; the game will still freeze. Note that the problem will not happen if you go to the bullpen and bring a reliever into the game; not sure why, but whatever is causing the frezze must be alleviated by actually bringing in a reliever.

        But the actual WORKAROUND that seems to work every time is as follows: once you press circle to leave the bullpen, before you even continue the game, press the start button to pause the game, and then unpause the game. Every time I've tested this, pressing select to bring up the pitcher/batter graphic causes absolutely no problems. Of course, you'll have to repeat this process of pausing and unpausing every time you view the bullpen, but it seems to work.
        Thanks to Spring Rubber for this work around
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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        • n8rockerasu
          Banned
          • Apr 2005
          • 77

          #5
          Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

          Thanks. I still don't think it's acceptable to go unfixed though...and the other issues I named are still out there. Also, the weird thing is, I never pressed up to check my bullpen (though I did have guys warming). Just as soon as the inning started, I pressed select and it froze.

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          • ryan36
            7 dirty words...
            • Feb 2003
            • 10139

            #6
            Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

            ...well in fairness, this SHOULD be patched. lol but yes the search tool rules.

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            • n8rockerasu
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 77

              #7
              Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

              But it's about more than just one issue. You have to recognize that. There's a bigger picture here.

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              • dallas0112
                Rookie
                • Jan 2008
                • 174

                #8
                Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                I've had freezes recently this last week, and I have never had them before, by just going to check out the free agent section within my season. Three of them. Same thing, I had to hard reset as well.
                PSN - miacanes12

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                • caborre
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                  all bugs should be fixed as soon as possible, we need a 3rd patch (y)

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                  • NiteLordz
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 471

                    #10
                    Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                    Out of curiosity... Do u guys have the fat ps3 or the slim

                    I have a fat one n I have locked up four times since the firmware update 3.30 came out last week. kinda wanna rule that out as I have read on sonys forums that the fat ps3 has been having issues since update 3.21 at the beginning of the month.

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52852

                      #11
                      Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                      Originally posted by n8rockerasu
                      But it's about more than just one issue. You have to recognize that. There's a bigger picture here.
                      we all recognize that there are bugs/glitches within the game. But one must realize also that patching a game is a delicate concept. To patch something the dev team must:

                      *identify the bug
                      *be able to re-create the bug
                      *find a fix for said bug
                      *test said fix to make sure that something else doesn't get broken by fix

                      Patching isn't a simple process.

                      The unfortunate truth is that some things just aren't patchable, whether it be due to time, the risk of the fix, or simply not being able to re-create it. I'm not saying the dev team won't fix the freezing issue, or any other issue, nor am I saying they will. But one has to understand that its not just about whether a dev team is willing or not..its more about are they able to given what I mentioned above vs the time-table that is needed to start production on next year's installment.

                      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                      Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                      • dallas0112
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 174

                        #12
                        Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                        yea, fat, like I said, never happened before, you're probably right about the update, let's hope sony gets it fixed.
                        PSN - miacanes12

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                        • dasfette
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 87

                          #13
                          Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                          Originally posted by countryboy

                          Patching isn't a simple process.
                          See, I think everyone understands this. What everyone, myself included, is getting impatient over is the fact that we have lost touch with the devs. Granted, this may seem "excessive" to those who aren't use to The Show. But here's the thing. This game is THE STANDARD for communication between gamers and devs. For example, if someone who's used to Madden was angry because Madden devs weren't listening to his complaints or updating him on the status of a patch, everyone would think he's crazy for ever expecting such a thing.

                          But here, with The Show, communication IS the standard. Thus, this game is perennually loved, while Madden hated by many.


                          My point is this. It would only take ONE team member (Russell.... ) about TWO MINS to post one of five things:

                          1. Sorry, but the devs are still on vacation. As soon as they get back, I'll get back to you.

                          2. The devs are currently looking into the issues. We are aware of them, and currently hoping to fix them.

                          3. The devs have fixed the issues (or at least some of them)! We will be sending it to Sony soon!

                          4. The devs have looked into the issues, and unfortunately, we are unable to fix them.

                          5. Sorry everyone, but instead of working on the issues for MLB 10, we have instead decided to work exclusively on MLB 11. For everyone who was waiting, well...

                          Sorry suckers. I'll bet you'll wait until May next year to buy!


                          No respect to SCEA or any devs. Just a little joking there at the end.

                          But, in all honesty, just give us something. Please. Just a little...

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                          • Whitesox
                            Closet pyromaniac
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5287

                            #14
                            Re: ATTN: SCEA Staff - A 3rd Patch IS NEEDED!

                            I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the devs decided to not come to this forum as much.

                            They understand that there are issues. There is a bugs/glitches thread. They read that. I don't know how anyone could be oblivious to such issues after seeing two or three separate threads about them, let alone when they are brought up over and over again.

                            I don't know if they would even bother to come into a thread like this, or the last one like this, or the on like this before that, and so on and so forth.

                            This thread is not going to make a patch appear out of no where, so you should just enjoy the amazing game you already have, and use the work around. No big deal.
                            Last edited by Whitesox; 04-26-2010, 10:57 PM.
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