Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

[jeremym480]

1) What is the most games that you've won/lost in a row?

2) When your struggling in your franchise at what point do you throw in the towel? (and by that I mean, sim to the next season not, starting over)

The reason I ask is because I'm sucking up the field in my current Houston franchise. I started out the season winning 1 game vs. the Giants then sweeping the Philly's but, since that series I haven't been able to string together two wins in a row. Plus, I was swept by St. Louis, Cincinnati and Arizona.

I'm currently in the middle of May and my record in 8-22. I'm the worst team in the league by 2 games.
I'm struggling in every facet of the game and I think it's unrealistic at this point to try and pull off a trade or sign a decent FA. I may consider a fire-sale if this goes on for another month or two but, I haven't gave up hope just yet.

I think that I bit off more than I could chew by moving up to All-Star on both hitting and pitching. I tried moving hitting back to veteran (for hitting only) after a 5 game losing streak to end the month of April (yeah, I know that's taking the ***** way out). Well, I was able to win 1 game against Atlanta when I made the change but, then I preceded to lose the next 7 games in a row and that's where I am now in my season.

Lastly, I just wanted to make it clear that I don't mind losing and I'm not complaining about that. This threads purpose is to discuss at what point you would pack it in for the season mainly because I don't want to spend 3-4 months playing this game only to finish last in the NL Central. As of now, my plan is to try to turn things around. Hopefully, we can reel off 10-15 wins in a row and get back in the thick of things. But if not, I'm thinking August may be a good point. Well if I'm 15+ games back, then I'll strongly consider moving on to the next season.

3) Have any of you ever experienced this or have you ever traded away your star's for prospects? Just asking out of curiosity.

Discuss.

[jim416]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

What level are you playing on that you are 8-22?

[Mabster]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

If you hadn't seen it already I wanted to point you to this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-glitches.html

It's kinda the same question that you have.

[redsrulenc]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

In my Cincinnati Reds Chise' I started off 0-5, and now my current record is 6-6. Just stick with it, or do a "firesale" like you said. I've never quit a franchise before and I knew this year wouldn't be any different. Starting off terrible is no fun though, and that's the truth. I just stuck with it and the team pulled themselves together I guess.

[jeremym480]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

What level are you playing on that you are 8-22?

All-Star hitting and pitching with Psychobulk's slider's . I moved hitting back down to Vet after a 5 game losing streak. Then, I won one game ten lost the next 7.

The funny thing is I had a "practice franchise" with Houston before Knight's roster's came out and I made it to about the same point in the season except my record was around 17-11 (or something similar, I can't quite remember). In that season I started out on vet/vet. Then I moved pitching up to All-Star because my ERA was 2nd in the league. When I made the move I still won games and pitched well, unlike my current season...

Like I said I'm not a quitter, I'm going to chalk this up to a team slump and hopefully we can get thing's turned around. At this point I think that my poor play is due to my pressing a little to hard so, maybe I should relax or drink a beer or before the game

[krmarks]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

I took over a Pirates franchise and planned to rebuild from the get go, so I can't help a lot on this question. But, what I did was keep the team together and play a lot till June, then firesale for prospects on everyone who could breathe and had major league experience. I loaded up with top 50 prospects and simmed a week, played 1 game or 2, then simmed a week till the end of the season. Now I play 3 games each week and my record went from 53 - 109 to after 1 month so far 15-10. And to top that off, I am loaded with young talent, but still have enough holes in my team to make me want to keep going.

[jeremym480]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

If you hadn't seen it already I wanted to point you to this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-glitches.html

It's kinda the same question that you have.

Yeah, it is a similar thread but, the difference is the OP was talking about restarting. My question's are about moving forward and what you would do in this situation.

I mean, I have some All-Star type player's who have plenty of value. Berkman, Lee and Oswalt are all in their mid-thirty's and still rated highly. Oswalt is having a awesome season but, is getting no run support. He's 2-2 and lost his last two games. One he lost 1-0 and the other he lost 2-0 and the second game a relief pitcher allowed the second run. Lee started off slowly but, has since turned things around a bit and actually having a decent statistical season now. Berkman is having a horrible season after coming off his stint on the DL. I've actually moved him down to 6th in the order. Also, he's in the last year of his contract so, I think I will have to trade him at some point. I just don't know if it's going to be sooner or later...

Also, one of my question's was when would you start looking to shed payroll and grab prospects. I didn't see anything like that in the other thread.

[cardsleadtheway]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

Fortunately for me, the A's are standing tall a game up in the division with a record of 26-20, but with my pre knight roster practice franchise, I was 10-30 and looking to fire sale as well. What I like about having Knight's rosters is that I have tons of prospects to look forward to if the season takes a turn for the worst (and firing Geren!). In fact, I was kind of hoping for that to happen, but now that I am winning I have to stick with it. I probably could get a lot for Sheets and maybe a bit for Duchscherer as well, but now I want to muscle through and try to have a winning season. A little off track, but if I were you and still losing badly by June, I would call up some of your prospects, although I am not really all that familiar with the Astros system. Perhaps you could find some players you really like and hit well with or pitch well with and can off load Berkman and others.

Oh and to answer number 1, 5 games is my longest winning streak so far with a 7 game losing streak before that.

[jeremym480]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

Fortunately for me, the A's are standing tall a game up in the division with a record of 26-20, but with my pre knight roster practice franchise, I was 10-30 and looking to fire sale as well. What I like about having Knight's rosters is that I have tons of prospects to look forward to if the season takes a turn for the worst (and firing Geren!). In fact, I was kind of hoping for that to happen, but now that I am winning I have to stick with it. I probably could get a lot for Sheets and maybe a bit for Duchscherer as well, but now I want to muscle through and try to have a winning season. A little off track, but if I were you and still losing badly by June, I would call up some of your prospects, although I am not really all that familiar with the Astros system. Perhaps you could find some players you really like and hit well with or pitch well with and can off load Berkman and others.

Oh and to answer number 1, 5 games is my longest winning streak so far with a 7 game losing streak before that.

Cool, thanks. In my franchise the A's are the only team currently in Rebuilding mode. That reminds me of another question...

Does anyone know if your team will switch from Normal to Rebuilding on it's on? If so, I think that will be the point in which I'll unload Berkman.

[cardsleadtheway]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

Cool, thanks. In my franchise the A's are the only team currently in Rebuilding mode. That reminds me of another question...

Does anyone know if your team will switch from Normal to Rebuilding on it's on? If so, I think that will be the point in which I'll unload Berkman.

That is a really good question. In my franchise, the A's are also the only team in rebuilding mode, even though I am the A's. Last year, your team was always normal, as you the GM determines your course. I wonder if being in rebuilding mode has been keeping me from getting off any trades. Carlos Pena has been on the block for a few weeks now and I can't get him for any of my prospects or combination of players on my roster not named Brett Anderson. Perhaps it will change once a few other teams switch from normal to either playoff push or rebuilding.

[Tovarich]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

1) What is the most games that you've won/lost in a row?

Longest losing streak is 5. Longest winning streak is 11, 10 of which were interleague games.

2) When your struggling in your franchise at what point do you throw in the towel? (and by that I mean, sim to the next season not, starting over)

I'd stay in it until you're eliminated from the postseason, but I'd play it out no matter what. I would never sim a game and end up with stats I didn't accomplish on my own.

3) Have any of you ever experienced this or have you ever traded away your star's for prospects? Just asking out of curiosity.

Did a draft franchise, so I didn't really trade anyone because I'm happy with all the people I picked.

[Titus1108]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

Cool, thanks. In my franchise the A's are the only team currently in Rebuilding mode. That reminds me of another question...

Does anyone know if your team will switch from Normal to Rebuilding on it's on? If so, I think that will be the point in which I'll unload Berkman.

I would like to know this as well?? Would be cool if if it did. Where do you go to check the status of that for each team tho??

[5th_fathom]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

1) What is the most games that you've won/lost in a row?

Lost 7 in a row (played 2 of them). Won 5 in a row (played 1)

2) When your struggling in your franchise at what point do you throw in the towel? (and by that I mean, sim to the next season not, starting over)

Well, the first two seasons of my Franchise I never considered myself to be in the position to contend (rebuild from the start), so I played out the string until the end.

3) Have any of you ever experienced this or have you ever traded away your star's for prospects? Just asking out of curiosity.

Yep, my first season was all about trading away any veteran players I could for future pieces. It was fun being able to nab future stars, and watch my hand-picked team come together.

[Braves Fan]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

1) What is the most games that you've won/lost in a row?

2) When your struggling in your franchise at what point do you throw in the towel? (and by that I mean, sim to the next season not, starting over)

The reason I ask is because I'm sucking up the field in my current Houston franchise. I started out the season winning 1 game vs. the Giants then sweeping the Philly's but, since that series I haven't been able to string together two wins in a row. Plus, I was swept by St. Louis, Cincinnati and Arizona.

I'm currently in the middle of May and my record in 8-22. I'm the worst team in the league by 2 games.
I'm struggling in every facet of the game and I think it's unrealistic at this point to try and pull off a trade or sign a decent FA. I may consider a fire-sale if this goes on for another month or two but, I haven't gave up hope just yet.

I think that I bit off more than I could chew by moving up to All-Star on both hitting and pitching. I tried moving hitting back to veteran (for hitting only) after a 5 game losing streak to end the month of April (yeah, I know that's taking the ***** way out). Well, I was able to win 1 game against Atlanta when I made the change but, then I preceded to lose the next 7 games in a row and that's where I am now in my season.

Lastly, I just wanted to make it clear that I don't mind losing and I'm not complaining about that. This threads purpose is to discuss at what point you would pack it in for the season mainly because I don't want to spend 3-4 months playing this game only to finish last in the NL Central. As of now, my plan is to try to turn things around. Hopefully, we can reel off 10-15 wins in a row and get back in the thick of things. But if not, I'm thinking August may be a good point. Well if I'm 15+ games back, then I'll strongly consider moving on to the next season.

3) Have any of you ever experienced this or have you ever traded away your star's for prospects? Just asking out of curiosity.

Discuss.

Well for me I'm going to play all the games no matter what. I'm not going to sim to the next season. I started a franchise when I first got the game and played about a month and was right around .500. When Knight's set came out I started over, I told myself I wouldn't but his set was just too good so I had to.

Needless to say I'm going through a lot of the same things you are. I'm 1-8 out of the blocks and I'm wondering if I'm ever going to win another game. The last game I played I though I had it. My offense exploded and I took a 8-1 lead going into the bottom of the 8th. Wouldn't you know it? The Padres scored 8 times on me and won 9-8. Now I'm losing 5-2 to the Rockies in the Top of the 7th. Looks like I'm headed to a 1-9 start if I don't get things turned around in this game.

I'm just going to stick with it though, I wonder if the problem isn't with me but my team. Could it just be the Braves stink? I mean the real Braves have lost 8 in a row themselves. Throw on top of that the injuries I've suffered (lost McLouth to a torn ACL and Chipper to an inflamed hip) and things just aren't looking very good for me.

Baseball is a funny game though, look at the Rockies last year. They were 21-32 and they turned it around and went to the playoffs. You just have to keep playing and see what happens, that's what I'm going to do. If I keep losing at an alarming rate I probably will have trade away some of my veterans at the deadline and start the youth movement. Not sure but it's way too early to make that call yet.

[chuckm1961]

Re: Three Part Question About Your Franchise?

I'll give my usual radical answer: have fun.

It's a game. If you are having fun, keep playing. If you are not, play the game differently until you are having fun.

"Fun" is different for each person. You decide.