Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

[acts238shaun]

My SP has 80 vel for the heater and everything else maxed out velocity wise. The change was added after I started, not at startup. My 4SFB is rated at 95mph and hits 94-97, my slider and splitter is rated at 92mph and averages about 90-91mph and my 12-6 is rated at 82 (I think) and hits around that on the gun. This is what gets me. My changeup is rated on the select screen at 70mph - and hits anywhere from 85 to 90mph. Huh? Do I need to max out my heater to get the slow change? I am used to the change making my heater slow, not the other way around. Do I need to remove the pitch and add it again?

I have checked and made sure there wasn't a trophy reward on by accident. Thanks for any help!

[acts238shaun]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

No one else has come across this?

[Azamien]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

It's the way they've linked the pitches together. Your change-up speed is affected by your fastball speed, and vice versa. The harder your fastball, the harder your change.

It sort of makes sense, because most guys in MLB seem to have a change around 10 mph slower than their fastball, but it does limit what we can make our pitcher into. No Lincecum-style Bugs Bunny change-ups for us.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

Ok, I was just wanting to be sure. I agree with what you said. The linking of pitches is why my 12-6 is maxed out when I prefer a Grienke like slow curve of 68 mph. If I leave it alone my heater will be 90-ish tops. Which is irritating.

At my best I could only throw near 80, but I had a change 10 miles slower and a knuckle curve that started off like a high fastball and fell between the catchers 5 hole. At it's fastest it was about 60. I was hoping to try to represent that in my RTTS. Thanks for your reply, much appreciated!

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

My SP has 80 vel for the heater and everything else maxed out velocity wise. The change was added after I started, not at startup. My 4SFB is rated at 95mph and hits 94-97, my slider and splitter is rated at 92mph and averages about 90-91mph and my 12-6 is rated at 82 (I think) and hits around that on the gun. This is what gets me. My changeup is rated on the select screen at 70mph - and hits anywhere from 85 to 90mph. Huh? Do I need to max out my heater to get the slow change? I am used to the change making my heater slow, not the other way around. Do I need to remove the pitch and add it again?

I have checked and made sure there wasn't a trophy reward on by accident. Thanks for any help!

You're misinterpreting what the ratings mean for pitch velocity. Think of it as a 0-100 scale for all attributes, not just velocity, that measures how good a pitch is in that specific attribute.

As it pertains to velocity, the higher the rating, the better (not necessarily higher) the velocity will be. So if your changeup velocity rating is 70, that means it's not as good as it should be, and bad changeup velocity is when it's too fast. So you want to get that changeup velocity rating higher -- into the 90s -- to see the actual velocity of the pitch drop.

Understand what I'm saying? It's kind of difficult to explain, but trust me, that's how it works.

[Mabster]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

You're misinterpreting what the ratings mean for pitch velocity. Think of it as a 0-100 scale for all attributes, not just velocity, that measures how good a pitch is in that specific attribute.

As it pertains to velocity, the higher the rating, the better (not necessarily higher) the velocity will be. So if your changeup velocity rating is 70, that means it's not as good as it should be, and bad changeup velocity is when it's too fast. So you want to get that changeup velocity rating higher -- into the 90s -- to see the actual velocity of the pitch drop.

Understand what I'm saying? It's kind of difficult to explain, but trust me, that's how it works.

The title says his change up velo is rated at 99. The pitch preview says he should be throwing it 70 but in game it's 90mph.

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

The title says his change up velo is rated at 99. The pitch preview says he should be throwing it 70 but in game it's 90mph.

I realize that, but he's not reading a rating somewhere correctly. No pitcher with a maxed out changeup velocity attribute would be able to throw a changeup 25 mph slower than his fastball, which is what he's suggesting he should be able to do. The perfect changeup velocity is approximately 12 mph slower than the fastball.

The only explanation is that his changeup velocity rating is actually 70, which would cause the pitch to be faster than what he wants.

[CHF]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

I realize that, but he's not reading a rating somewhere correctly. No pitcher with a maxed out changeup velocity attribute would be able to throw a changeup 25 mph slower than his fastball, which is what he's suggesting he should be able to do. The perfect changeup velocity is approximately 12 mph slower than the fastball.

The only explanation is that his changeup velocity rating is actually 70, which would cause the pitch to be faster than what he wants.

Aroldis Chapman has thrown a 102 mile per hour 4 seamer followed by a 76 mile per hour change in a game I was watching. So it is certainly possible in real life.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

I realize that, but he's not reading a rating somewhere correctly.

The only explanation is that his changeup velocity rating is actually 70, which would cause the pitch to be faster than what he wants.

No, the VEL rating is 99 for my change and in the game, when you hit select and square my pitch speed shows 70 for the change.

When you create a guy with a change, his speed starts at 88 and as the slider moves up it decreases the speed as it goes, showing 70 mph for a 99 rating. The 12-6 starts at 68 and at a 99 rating shows around 82 mph.

My speed on the 12-6, change, splitter and slider are now maxed out and I am hitting 95 mph on the gun with the 4SFB, which I think is an 80 rating as far as attributes.

I am not mistaking anything, it's just my change is to fast for velocity rating.

[Girondin]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

Aroldis Chapman has thrown a 102 mile per hour 4 seamer followed by a 76 mile per hour change in a game I was watching. So it is certainly possible in real life.

Very interesting. I am struggling in RTTS, as a batter, mainly because I can´t hit pitchers that throw 96 mph fastballs followed by 76 mph change ups (in AA).
I thought that speed combination would not be realistic.
But then, Chapman is not an average AA scrub.

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

Aroldis Chapman has thrown a 102 mile per hour 4 seamer followed by a 76 mile per hour change in a game I was watching. So it is certainly possible in real life.

I saw Chapman pitch in person while sitting behind home plate with a radar gun in my hands and his changeup was 85-88 for the entire six innings he pitched. Plus, my point was a pitcher with his changeup attribute maxed out wouldn't throw a change that much slower, not that it wasn't possible at all.

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

No, the VEL rating is 99 for my change and in the game, when you hit select and square my pitch speed shows 70 for the change.

When you create a guy with a change, his speed starts at 88 and as the slider moves up it decreases the speed as it goes, showing 70 mph for a 99 rating. The 12-6 starts at 68 and at a 99 rating shows around 82 mph.

My speed on the 12-6, change, splitter and slider are now maxed out and I am hitting 95 mph on the gun with the 4SFB, which I think is an 80 rating as far as attributes.

I am not mistaking anything, it's just my change is to fast for velocity rating.

Then it must be a glitch in the game that's making it show that you're supposed to throw a 70 mph change when your player actually doesn't.

Most pitchers who have a pitch 20-30 mph slower than their fastball, it's a slow curveball, not a changeup. Livan Hernandez's fastball is 85-87 and he throws one version of his curve that's in the low 60s, but his change is always in the low 70s.

If your FB is 95, a maxed out changeup should be 83-85, in general baseball terms. Obviously this game doesn't replicate everything perfectly, though.

Sorry that I misinterpreted your original post.

[Pazananack]

Re: Bug in RTTS - changeup is 90 mph w/a 99 velocity rating?

There's definitely some type of glitch going on with pitch speed in RTTS, my guy has a maxed out running fast ball and the highest speed it's registered was 90, usually though it sits right around 89, and I have velocity maxed out.