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  • texans
    Rookie
    • May 2004
    • 430

    #1

    Is there any way?

    To keep all of your 40 man roster from being promoted in September? I want to only call up a few guys and have a total of 32 or so. I'd like to choose so I don't have to use an option on a player I don't plan on using. Any insight?
  • fjackson18
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 280

    #2
    Re: Is there any way?

    If i recall. sending them down right after ST is pretty much using an option regardless. so them being recalled in Sept really does not take an option if they started ST on the 40 man. i am sure someone with more knowledge of this will say something similar.

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    • texans
      Rookie
      • May 2004
      • 430

      #3
      Re: Is there any way?

      This is true, but take this example. I have an 'A' potential closer who I added to my 40-man at the trade deadline. He was never in ST so an option wasn't used there. Now it's September and he automatically gets pushed to The Show. I am in the thick of a playoff race and have no intention of using him so I attempt to send him down to AAA, only to be warned that this will use an option. Any way of avoiding this?

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      • Maynard
        Banned
        • Feb 2007
        • 832

        #4
        Re: Is there any way?

        a player on the 40 man that that is called up during September call ups will NOT use an option when he is sent back down.

        that is the rule and i assume the show follows that rule.

        You must have your 25 man playoff roster set by sept 1. the other 15 guys that get called up will automatically be sent back down after the season and not use an option

        now exceptions would be if a player was hurt during the post season and u called up a guy....that would then use an option if he was sent back down when the injured player came back

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        • texans
          Rookie
          • May 2004
          • 430

          #5
          Re: Is there any way?

          True. But I guess my question is "Is there any way from preventing players from being called up automatically when the minor league season ends Sept. 5th or so?" My experience is that everyone on the 40-man is called up and if you want to immediately send them back down, the game asks you if you want to use an option.
          Last edited by texans; 05-23-2010, 04:15 PM. Reason: typos.

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          • Maynard
            Banned
            • Feb 2007
            • 832

            #6
            Re: Is there any way?

            no u cant do that. Its a rule in baseball to expand the roster to 40. If u choose to send someone down, u would be forced to add someone else to replace them

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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27925

              #7
              Re: Is there any way?

              Originally posted by Maynard
              no u cant do that. Its a rule in baseball to expand the roster to 40.
              No it's not. The rule is that you can expand to 40, you don't have to and often times teams don't bring up all 40.

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              • Maynard
                Banned
                • Feb 2007
                • 832

                #8
                Re: Is there any way?

                Originally posted by kehlis
                No it's not. The rule is that you can expand to 40, you don't have to and often times teams don't bring up all 40.
                your right they dont bring up 40 guys total. But you still have to have 40 guys on the roster

                EDIT...u may be right about saying they "can" have 40. I am not sure if the rule says the must have 40 on the 40 man roster

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27925

                  #9
                  Re: Is there any way?

                  Originally posted by Maynard
                  your right they dont bring up 40 guys total. But you still have to have 40 guys on the roster
                  What do you mean?

                  THey have the 40 man roster year round.

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                  • texans
                    Rookie
                    • May 2004
                    • 430

                    #10
                    Re: Is there any way?

                    Originally posted by Maynard
                    your right they dont bring up 40 guys total. But you still have to have 40 guys on the roster

                    EDIT...u may be right about saying they "can" have 40. I am not sure if the rule says the must have 40 on the 40 man roster
                    You don't have to have 40, it's just the max allowed. The Astros lately have been going with 38 or 39. I guess it gives you flexibility to add someone if there is an injury.

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                    • Maynard
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 832

                      #11
                      Re: Is there any way?

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      No it's not. The rule is that you can expand to 40, you don't have to and often times teams don't bring up all 40.
                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      What do you mean?

                      THey have the 40 man roster year round.
                      what i mean is that even though u dont have to have 40 guys on the MLB roster in sept, that u still must have 40 guy on the 40 man roster.....and that the game is not programmed to allow you to have less than 40 when the roster expands in sept. That the game automatically brings up the other 15 guys who arent on the MLB roster


                      Originally posted by texans
                      You don't have to have 40, it's just the max allowed. The Astros lately have been going with 38 or 39. I guess it gives you flexibility to add someone if there is an injury.
                      right, and thats why i editted my post because after thinking about it i realized that teams dont have to have 40

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                      • texans
                        Rookie
                        • May 2004
                        • 430

                        #12
                        Re: Is there any way?

                        Originally posted by Maynard
                        That the game automatically brings up the other 15 guys who arent on the MLB roster
                        I think this is the main issue. If the game didn't automatically bring everyone up, I wouldn't have to send them back down, or have to use an option.

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                        • Maynard
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 832

                          #13
                          Re: Is there any way?

                          im curious why u dont want them on the mlb roster? is it cause they clutter things up?

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                          • texans
                            Rookie
                            • May 2004
                            • 430

                            #14
                            Re: Is there any way?

                            Once they start making appearances or at-bat's, their MLB service time clock starts ticking. When they hit 3 yrs service time, they become arbitration eligible. I would like to keep some of my better prospects 'club controlled' for as long as possible.

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                            • cardsleadtheway
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1913

                              #15
                              Re: Is there any way?

                              Originally posted by texans
                              Once they start making appearances or at-bat's, their MLB service time clock starts ticking. When they hit 3 yrs service time, they become arbitration eligible. I would like to keep some of my better prospects 'club controlled' for as long as possible.
                              I can sort of understand your reasoning, but they are only up for a month and you don't have to bring them back up right after spring training the following year. You can wait a month or two so to balance out that service time. If they are a player of such a caliber that you think they will cost you a lot come arbitration, then they will most likely be super 2's anyway, making this whole topic moot. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. The other option would be to not add your closer to the 40 man roster in the first place. Why you would do that mid season if you have no intention of calling him up in September baffles me. The September call ups are the greatest thing to be added to a baseball game since they first added minor leagues. You can use them when you are out of the race to get a feel for what move you plan on making in the off season. And you can use them when you are in the race to make sure your pitchers are getting rest, your players don't get hurt, and of course to ensure that you have ample speed and defense for tight games.

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