Check Swing Appeal Still a Coin Flip?

[Mabster]

I've always had to turn the check swing appeal off because the umpires calls just seemed random and not based on if your bat actually crossed the plate or not. So far, for me, it seems to be the same in '11.

What has everyone else experienced?

[PsychoBulk]

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I have to agree. So many clearly wrong calls on this last year, the demo seems to be very similar in this regard so again I'll be turning check swing appeals off.

The good thing is if you still blatantly go too far the home plate ump will call it anyway.

[Raskal]

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MLB Umpires get this wrong all the time in real life. As poster above said, I just recommend turning it off if you don't like the "human" factor.

[JustinSainn]

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I've always had to turn the check swing appeal off because the umpires calls just seemed random and not based on if your bat actually crossed the plate or not. So far, for me, it seems to be the same in '11.

What has everyone else experienced?

What hitting controls are you using? I found the same issue last year with the buttons but I've been playing with the analog controls and so far my check swings have been very accurately called. There's only been one that I could argue against but it was extremely close.

I think the appeal actually depends more on the pressure on the button than it does the animation of the player. With analog you have more room for error.

[Jgainsey]

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What hitting controls are you using? I found the same issue last year with the buttons but I've been playing with the analog controls and so far my check swings have been very accurately called. There's only been one that I could argue against but it was extremely close.

I think the appeal actually depends more on the pressure on the button than it does the animation of the player. With analog you have more room for error.

I have had the same experience this year with analog hitting. It definitely seems like they have been called much more accurately.

[Mabster]

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What hitting controls are you using?

Using analog. One "swing" didn't even leave my shoulder and was appealed as strike three.

[EnigmaNemesis]

MLB Umpires get this wrong all the time in real life. As poster above said, I just recommend turning it off if you don't like the "human" factor.

This. It is clearly subjective most of the time in real life, just as balls and strikes.

If it was right all the time in game, then that would feel too computerized. We like the random strike zones don't we?

[JustinSainn]

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This. It is clearly subjective most of the time in real life, just as balls and strikes.

If it was right all the time in game, then that would feel too computerized. We like the random strike zones don't we?

Actually I'd prefer MLB to take the human element out as much as possible like most other sports have but because baseball and its fans can't stand to break tradition I'll keep it in the game when I play for authenticity but I by no means like it.

[JustinSainn]

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Using analog. One "swing" didn't even leave my shoulder and was appealed as strike three.

Musta been a glitch or something cause it's working great here.

[nmycon]

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check swings in real life are a coin flip too

there are the ones that go way over the plate and ones that barely leave the batters shoulders... those are always called right

but a base umpire has a couple of seconds to judge wether a bat moved an inch too far from 90 feet away... it's pretty hard to consistently make the right call

[bobeureally27]

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Actually I'd prefer MLB to take the human element out as much as possible like most other sports have but because baseball and its fans can't stand to break tradition I'll keep it in the game when I play for authenticity but I by no means like it.

So, what are you suggesting? Each ball/strike call being subject to instant replay? The human element is what makes baseball so great, especially for something like the strike zone and check swings. It's a judgement call.

[JustinSainn]

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So, what are you suggesting? Each ball/strike call being subject to instant replay? The human element is what makes baseball so great, especially for something like the strike zone and check swings. It's a judgement call.

The technology exists to call strikes instantly by cameras, sensors and computers. You'd still have to have umps down there to make the physical call but it wouldn't be for them to decide.

[spitoon]

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I posted this same question in the Q&A thread but it went unanswered...glad you re-asked it here.

I turned them off last year for exactly the same reason. I have no problem with 'the human element', but there were times where it wasn't close to the bat crossing the zone and it was called a strike. It also seemed like it was about 80-20 called a strike..AND it had little relation to what the video of the swing looked like.

I was hoping for a fix this year, but it looks as though it was not tweaked. I'm not sure what is used to calculate this, but there seems something wrong with it...IMO.

[Mabster]

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spitoon, you echo my thoughts exactly.

[bobeureally27]

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The technology exists to call strikes instantly by cameras, sensors and computers. You'd still have to have umps down there to make the physical call but it wouldn't be for them to decide.

I think you SERIOUSLY need to consider following a different sport Yes, the technology exists. But baseball is NOT a game that should have every single call decided by technology.