Lets talk player ratings!

[findinghomer]

great thread..... how exactly does "potential" work. i mean, shouldn there be a potential for every rating??

if a guy is currently a C overall, has C contact, D power, F fielding, but A potential. does that mean each rating category would bump 2 letter grades (c to a) if he reaches full potential ? meaning he would be, A contact, B power, C fielding at full potential???? or is it totally random how each aspect produces? this is my theory but i really dont know how progression is determined or works.

[ondreythegiant]

Quote: Originally Posted by Makaveli Da Don

Crawford ran a 40 in 4.28. I can't truly imagine Drew running anywhere close regardless of what some book says.

yeah, lol at the idea of drew being nearly as fast as crawford just because of some wacky stat. watch the two guys run and you tell me who's faster. rickey henderson wasn't the fastest guy in the league, but stole the most bases, so base stealing is not completely based on speed.

[TripleThreat1973]

Quote: Originally Posted by BwanaKuu

Potential is probably the most screwed up rating. Ryan Howard has a B potential now when he used to have an A. I know he hasn't played amazing recently but that hardly warrants a B rating. He is an all-star caliber 1B possibly the best in the league IF he stays healthy this year.

I'm generally a Howard defender, but this statement is very far from the truth.

Go to fangraphs, baseball-reference.com, and look up a sta called WAR. I'm not going to explain it here, but Howard is among the most over-rated players, and his contract is viewed as "almost as bad" as Vernon Wells.

Simply put, Howard needs to have 50 HR seasons in order to provide a ton of value.

You really should look at where Howard ranks among 1B's in WAR or any other "value stat".

[Thomas7]

I got this from Reading Knights and others comment on this subjects.

Quote: Originally Posted by gigadkc

I always wondered what the ratings are based on because if you compare some players then some ratings just don't make much sense. I always edit the ratings myself and it's pretty much based on "Ron Shandler's Baseball Forecaster". It's a good book to use for ratings (and for fantasy baseball, of course ) because of the stats they use and stuff like PX and SX so it's not too much work for me. My ratings are usually based on the last 2 seasons and the results were pretty good in the past. Of course some things are weird sometimes if you edit stuff yourself because u can't edit managers and their decisions, playing time/platoons, how often players have green light and stuff so the right ratings sometimes have a wrong outcome what makes things really hard. Just an example: Stephen Drew is at least as fast as Carl Crawford (that's a fact btw) but he doesn't even steal more bases than Albert Pujols. How u wanna edit that? It's impossible. So u have to edit Drew that he is a) way to slow in the game or b) he steals way to many bags. So NOW it's pretty much impossible to edit the players the way that it results in let's say 90% plausible stats. You just can rate the players' skills perfectly but you can't influence how the game's using each player. I'd say NBA 2K11 is the only game were u can edit stuff the way that it is really close to real life.

[Thomas7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Thomas7

I got this from Reading Knights and others comment on this subjects.

BaseRunningAbilty and BR Aggressiveness have more to do with stealing and taking extra bases.

[Dodgersnlakers109]

[quote]Stephen Drew is at least as fast as Carl Crawford [/QUOTE
I need proof

[cardsleadtheway]

Quote: Originally Posted by findinghomer

great thread..... how exactly does "potential" work. i mean, shouldn there be a potential for every rating?? if a guy is currently a C overall, has C contact, D power, F fielding, but A potential. does that mean each rating category would bump 2 letter grades (c to a) if he reaches full potential ? meaning he would be, A contact, B power, C fielding at full potential???? or is it totally random how each aspect produces? this is my theory but i really dont know how progression is determined or works.

I am pretty sure the developers aren't positive as to how exactly potential and progression works. I would love to see potential removed for players that have at least 3 years of service time. By then, the potential is pretty apparent. From then on, training and age should be the only factors for progression. But that is just my personal wish list. It seems we will have a completely new system next year so here's hoping this stuff is more thoroughly ironed out.