Computer refusing to pull the starter...

[Kearnzo]

Well, I really don't know what to say to this one. I just had Colby Lewis throw a 145 pitch complete game against me, only giving up one run. He was completely out of stamina to start the 8th. He proceeded to groove meatballs to me, and despite 4 meatballs in a row, I couldn't manage a hit. Then he walked one guy, gave up a hit, and they still left him in. Got another meatball that I grounded into for a soft double play.

I know i'll get a series of "you need to hit better" responses, but I know how to hit. I just lit them up for 8 runs the previous game. He actually pitched great through 7, and I would have been more than happy to take my whooping, had they pulled him as they should at around 100 pitches. This seemingly was a direct result of his confidence being high, meaning I wasn't going to do anything with his mistake pitches.

I'm all for having a pitcher dominate me, but this was an absolute ****. I hope I don't run into this again. Having this happen, especially in the opening series of the year, is quite troubling to say the least.

[DFizzle64]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

I have yet to see that. However, somtimes the CPU pitcher is just in a groove.

[Glenn33]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

Isn't there a slider for this? ** Kitty Represent!!!

[treyraq]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

Although there may be a certain reason the cpu "decided" to stick with him...I'd say it's another example of why we should be allowed to control cpu lineups...

[nonnel]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

I'm confused as to what the issue is here. A pitcher was pitching great... in a groove, and the manager let him stay out there. What exactly is the outrage concerning? The fact that you didn't get hits on "meatballs"? (Those aren't automatic hits... much like in real life). The fact that they left him out there while he was pitching well? (Isn't that what managers do... maybe 145 is a little high, but not insane if he's dominating).

So what's the issue?... I'm not mocking... I'm genuinely confused.

[osubeavs721]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

yeah its not unheard of, managers will leave a pitcher in if he is rolling. Look at the Edwin Jackson no hitter, dude threw like 150+ pitches. If you cant hit the guy why would the manager care what the "stamina bar" looks like? there isnt a stamina bar in real life. So the fact the game played like real life, is a good thing

[Polo Bandit]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

what was the score of the game?

[moemoe24]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

Turn the manager hook slider up. This should take care of that.

In your defense 145 pitches on opening day doesn't happen.....no matter how good the pitcher is pitching.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

Yeah, I still feel confidence has too strong an effect. They still need to tone it down a bit more and, at this point, I think they should simply make it an on/off option as IMO, it's one of the main culprits for people thinking the AI is cheating them (not saying that's the OP's gripe here...just that it contributes to that as well).

As for this, I don't think a pitcher cruising along and not being pulled is necessarily a concern. Aside from throwing 145 pitches on Opening Day (which I doubt they have specific logic in place for), there isn't anything terribly unrealistic about it as long as such high pitch counts don't happen too much.

[indcolts18288]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

Although there may be a certain reason the cpu "decided" to stick with him...I'd say it's another example of why we should be allowed to control cpu lineups...

No we shouldn't

[nonnel]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

I dunno... I'm still confused what the issue is. Just because his meter is down doesn't mean his arm is broken. And it doesn't mean he's going to throw underhand and lob balls up to the plate. Just means it's more likely you're going to get a hit because he's going to have a tougher time placing his pitches and getting speed behind them.

I seriously have no idea what the issue is here. So anyways, good luck.

[treyraq]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

No we shouldn't

It should be an option.

[osubeavs721]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

It should be an option.

no we shouldnt... why should we have the option to control cpu lineups? that makes no sense

[treyraq]

Re: Computer refusing to pull the starter...

why should we have the option to control cpu lineups? that makes no sense

For those of us that consider ourselves smarter than the cpu and would like even more realism in games, especially in (relief) pitching matchups, it would allow us to control those decisions and make the game MORE challenging and realistic. I can't tell you how many times I see a cpu blow through it's bullpen in a game, sometimes 3 pitchers in an inning when it doesn't even take R-R or L-L situations into account. It just goes off pitching roster depth and energy, and it's too predictable. Take pinch-hitting as another example. I've seen the cpu use the wrong guys for the situation often and make strange defensive changes as a result.

I know where you guys are coming from--"why would we want to help the cpu beat us?"
Franchise mode gives us the ability to control everything roster-wise for every team anyway, so why not in-game as well?

It's for the guys that don't get to see those exciting situations between two stars because the cpu doesn't realize who players actually are or doesn't fully understand say, an (emotional) storyline in the game.
Whatever the case may be.

I don't see what it could hurt. All I'm saying is it could be an option. And I would use it. And if you don't see what sense it would make then you wouldn't have to use it.
Make sense?

[slugga77]

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Not really that serious, but i thought it was odd that they didnt take Daniel Hudson out when I had already scored 6 runs on him in the 4th. But they went on to take him out in the 5th. Not a big deal. But 145 pitches? Unrealistic.