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  • nuckles2k2
    MVP
    • Sep 2006
    • 1922

    #1

    I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

    Usually I'll create a LHP with a running fastball, slider, and some sort of curveball to start. But this year I want to switch it up a little but I'd like some feedback before I start my RTTS.

    I'm still making a lefty, but I was thinking about going 2-seamer, cutter, and 12-6 curve, or 4-seamer, 2-seamer, slider and I can't make up my mind.

    What do you folks think? Which 3-pitch repertoire would be better to start a lefty RTTS? He's a starter by the way, if that matters at all.
  • beantownbruins
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 476

    #2
    Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

    I always get a lot of strikeouts with Edison Volquez and his first pitch is a 4-seam fastball with his 2nd pitch being a changeup. If you are going for strikeouts I recommend using that combo with other pitches varied in.
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    • Mabster
      Crunchy
      • Mar 2009
      • 7659

      #3
      Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

      I love the repertoire of me RTTS pitcher, 4 seamer 94-96 mph, splitter 86-89 mph, and a circle change 79-83 mph. I can mix speeds very well, keeping batters off balance very easily. Fastball high in the zone followed by a split middle away or down gets lots of ground ball double plays. Fastball/change for the K. My guy is still in AAA so those mph's will still evolve but my goal is to keep them consistently varied in a 15 mph range.

      The splitter and change have similar movement but different speeds. I'm going to mix in something that has some horizontal movement next, probably a slider.

      If you've never made a RTTS guy with a change up I highly recommend it. Out of the two options you listed, I would go with the 4-seam, 2-seam, slider. I don't think you have enough speed variation but it's your call.
      Last edited by Mabster; 04-15-2011, 10:21 PM.
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      • mmorg
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 2304

        #4
        Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

        I always go with a cutter, 2 seam, and change. So I can have pitches that move in, away, and down on every batter. Get guys swinging at pitches moving off the plate, or looking at pitches moving onto the plate. Next pitch I add will probably be a sweeping curve or slider.
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        • USC-Trojans
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 206

          #5
          Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

          4 seamer, slider, 12-6 curveball

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          • nuckles2k2
            MVP
            • Sep 2006
            • 1922

            #6
            Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

            Thanks for the input guys. I went with the 2-seam, cutter, and 12-6 knee buckler for the same reasons Mmorg talked about. I can throw down and in on lefties, down and away from righties, and up and in to righties, all with movement.

            I usually look to add a changeup when my guy gets to the majors, I like to establish speed and movement first before I get a solid off-speed pitch.

            This is gonna be fun...

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            • eyeamg0dly
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 1671

              #7
              Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

              i would have went cut, slurve, then your choice of circle change or 12-6
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              • nmazz
                Rookie
                • Mar 2011
                • 15

                #8
                Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                i like using sinker circle change and cutter. the sinker and change get alot of ground balls from lefties and the cutter (for a lefty) will always bust in on righties

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                • Solid-Hock
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 106

                  #9
                  Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                  I like to use Cutter, 2-Seam , Sweeping Curve, and Forkball for a RHP.

                  For lefty it's 4-Seam, 12-6 Curve, C-Change, Slider, and 2-Seam.

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                  • Phillies2010
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 378

                    #10
                    Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                    for my LHP I went, 4-seam FB, circle change, and sweeping curve.

                    I can get my FB up around 92mph then slow it down with the circle change around 75
                    and even throw that big sweeping curve that maxes out at 70mph
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                    • nuckles2k2
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1922

                      #11
                      Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                      I decided to make a new guy to switch up my curveballs. I'm going with a repertoire of 2 seamer, cutter, and knuckle-curve (I kinda wish they'd change the name to spike curve.)

                      I really didn't have an out pitch versus lefties, even after I got the movement on my 12-6 curve up to 90 I was still having trouble attacking the outside corner with it effectively (both in the zone and out of the zone...I just can't get the pitch to work for me.)

                      I rather the down and away movement of the spike curve, I can paint the corner vs righties and make lefties look stupid.

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                      • ChernoTheInferno
                        Rookie
                        • May 2011
                        • 168

                        #12
                        Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                        I could use some help, too.
                        I have a very odd issue. I worked my way up with my starter to being pretty much an ace with a 93-95 mph 4-seam and running fastball, 83-85 mph slider and 80-83 mph circle change. This was with my velocity rating for my fastball at 99. Naturally, through the training sessions my slider and change-up speeds also increased. Then after my last season I added, and then dropped a pitch (change-up). Now my 4-seam and running fastball is suddenly 97-100 mph. I dropped my circle change as it was now getting up to 94 mph, which makes no sense. I tried to add a regular change-up and a circle change but those keep starting at 93-94 now. I'm in quite a pickle. I'd really like to somehow have a change-up in the low to mid 80s. I was fine with my fastball being at 93-95 and don't know why it suddenly jumped up by 5 mph. I'm really confused as to how to "progress" the speed of a change-up. When creating a player, increasing the velocity rating makes the change-ups slower, but in RTTS it makes them faster. So I ask, should I shelve this pitcher and start over, or is there some bloody way to not have a 94 mph "changeup?"

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                        • mmorg
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 2304

                          #13
                          Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                          Isn't upping the velocity supposed to lower the speed of change ups? That's really weird man I don't know what to tell you.
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                          • fullmetal2405
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 406

                            #14
                            Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                            Increasing velocity on the changeup does lower the speed. But increasing velocity on your other pitches also has an effect on the velocity of your other pitches. With my closer I do see an increase in my slider velocity, for example, when I raise my fastball velocity. 93-94 does seem a bit high for a change though, but I wouldn't think it very realistic to throw a 100 mph fastball and then toss in an 80 mph change

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                            • ChernoTheInferno
                              Rookie
                              • May 2011
                              • 168

                              #15
                              Re: I want to switch up my repertoire this year.

                              Originally posted by fullmetal2405
                              Increasing velocity on the changeup does lower the speed. But increasing velocity on your other pitches also has an effect on the velocity of your other pitches. With my closer I do see an increase in my slider velocity, for example, when I raise my fastball velocity. 93-94 does seem a bit high for a change though, but I wouldn't think it very realistic to throw a 100 mph fastball and then toss in an 80 mph change
                              Yeah, I realize that. At this point I just want a change-up below 90. And like I said, I don't even know why my fastball jumped up by 5 mph out of nowhere (it was at 93-95 with velocity at 99). Thinking about scrapping this pitcher and starting anew. The 94 mph change-up is at this point just a slower fastball that gets hammered.

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