How does Classic pitching work?

[ambizytl]

What I'm really asking is when are you supposed to release the ball with Classic pitching?

[Bronxzoo29]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

You pick your pitch with the face buttons and/or R1 sometimes. After you do this put the ball where you want to and simply press the x button.

[ambizytl]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

You pick your pitch with the face buttons and/or R1 sometimes. After you do this put the ball where you want to and simply press the x button.

I know that, my question is when to release the ball, when to release the X button for accuracy? Isn't there some release point that you're supposed to use as a guide?

[nemesis04]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

I know that, my question is when to release the ball, when to release the X button for accuracy? Isn't there some release point that you're supposed to use as a guide?

You are not determining release point with classic pitching. You are holding X to determine how much effort you are putting behind a pitch. If you have rumble enabled you will feel a rumble when max effort is achieved and can let go. Applying varying degrees of effort by holding X for a shorter or longer period of time will affect how the pitch reacts. Also remember the pitch icon in the zone tells you where the pitch will break not end up.

[ty5oke]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

You are not determining release point with classic pitching. You are holding X to determine how much effort you are putting behind a pitch. If you have rumble enabled you will feel a rumble when max effort is achieved and can let go. Applying varying degrees of effort by holding X for a shorter or longer period of time will affect how the pitch reacts. Also remember the pitch icon in the zone tells you where the pitch will break not end up.

I thought the rumble was the ideal time of release not the max effort. Maybe that's why I am leading the league in walks by a large margin and have 10's for pitching control and consistency in my sliders.

I'm going to try and allow my pitchers to release before the rumble and see if that helps. Thanks for the info Nem.

[ambizytl]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

You are not determining release point with classic pitching. You are holding X to determine how much effort you are putting behind a pitch. If you have rumble enabled you will feel a rumble when max effort is achieved and can let go. Applying varying degrees of effort by holding X for a shorter or longer period of time will affect how the pitch reacts. Also remember the pitch icon in the zone tells you where the pitch will break not end up.

The rumble is so short that most times I can't hit it. I don't think hitting the rumble for slow pitches or even sliders is a good idea. I tried practice and seems like for slow pitches and sliders you need to go before the rumble.

[RGmoney]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

Few discussion threads on Classic pitching that might help the OP.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...iscussion.html

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...w-strikes.html

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-pitching.html

[ambizytl]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

Few discussion threads on Classic pitching that might help the OP.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...iscussion.html

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...w-strikes.html

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-pitching.html

Thanks for posting those links. Some real good information there, but also some confusing issues. Would be great if they had a tutorial on Classic pitching for 2011 version.

I still need to finish reading that first link which has quite a few pages, the others were relatively short. Thanks again for those links.

[nemesis04]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

The rumble is so short that most times I can't hit it. I don't think hitting the rumble for slow pitches or even sliders is a good idea. I tried practice and seems like for slow pitches and sliders you need to go before the rumble.

On those pitches max effort (rumble) would give you the most movement, almost too much. Classic is a touch and feel type of system. Depending on the pitch max effort could be good or bad. With pitches that move, you would give less effort so they do not take off on you but not having enough movement makes them extremely hittable and usually hit very hard. It takes practice to get a feel for the system.

Tip: When throwing practice pitches, watch at what point in the pitcher's motion the rumble occurs. From there you can determine the varying degrees of effort you want to apply before max effort occurs.

[ambizytl]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

On those pitches max effort (rumble) would give you the most movement, almost too much. Classic is a touch and feel type of system. Depending on the pitch max effort could be good or bad. With pitches that move, you would give less effort so they do not take off on you but not having enough movement makes them extremely hittable and usually hit very hard. It takes practice to get a feel for the system.

Tip: When throwing practice pitches, watch at what point in the pitcher's motion the rumble occurs. From there you can determine the varying degrees of effort you want to apply before max effort occurs.

Great idea! I am going to do that today. Your explanation of the rumble and movement should help me further, thanks!

[snaz16]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

I remember something last year that you should mimic the pitchers release point and that just before the lead leg touches the ground during the delivery,is when you are supposed to release the button.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

I thought the rumble was the ideal time of release not the max effort. Maybe that's why I am leading the league in walks by a large margin and have 10's for pitching control and consistency in my sliders.

I'm going to try and allow my pitchers to release before the rumble and see if that helps. Thanks for the info Nem.

I personally don't see any accuracy bonus when releasing pre-vibration, or even when using a literal 'tap.'

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

On those pitches max effort (rumble) would give you the most movement, almost too much. Classic is a touch and feel type of system. Depending on the pitch max effort could be good or bad. With pitches that move, you would give less effort so they do not take off on you but not having enough movement makes them extremely hittable and usually hit very hard. It takes practice to get a feel for the system.

Tip: When throwing practice pitches, watch at what point in the pitcher's motion the rumble occurs. From there you can determine the varying degrees of effort you want to apply before max effort occurs.

Not to nit-pick, but I'm starting to get irritated by the term "max effort."

And Nemesis, this is no knock on you or anything. I understand that this is a term you were handed, and not one of your own creation.

"Max," to me, would literally translate into a ceiling - a point of no return or additional progress/regress - so to speak.

Pitches, in my experience, are indeed impacted while holding beyond the rumble. Actually, pitches do some really suspect things if you hold and never let go.

So, wouldn't holding and never releasing really be 'max'?

Therefore, at least to me, the rumble can NOT indicate any end point.

[nemesis04]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

Not to nit-pick, but I'm starting to get irritated by the term "max effort."

And Nemesis, this is no knock on you or anything. I understand that this is a term you were handed, and not one of your own creation.

"Max," to me, would literally translate into a ceiling - a point of no return or additional progress/regress - so to speak.

Pitches, in my experience, are indeed impacted while holding beyond the rumble. Actually, pitches do some really suspect things if you hold and never let go.

So, wouldn't holding and never releasing really be 'max'?

Therefore, at least to me, the rumble can NOT indicate any end point.

I don't know what to tell you heroesandvillians. The rumble was put in to help people figure out where they could let go for max effort. Obviously you can hold it past the point of rumble but there is no way to gauge if indeed you are getting more of an effect going passed that point or if that point is indeed the max effect.

I do think the rumble occurs too early in the pitcher's windup and should occur towards the end of his delivery.

[nemesis04]

Re: How does Classic pitching work?

I personally don't see any accuracy bonus when releasing pre-vibration, or even when using a literal 'tap.'

I never look at it as an accuracy bonus, just a way to achieve varying degrees of break/movement.