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  • #1
    Sefjones1234
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    • Nov 2004
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    The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


    MLB 11 is great!!! The improvement they make on a year to year basis is truly impressive. With the addition of the analog stick hitting throwing etc. For the first time is pretty good and i know they will improve even further for next year. The one thing I do feel is missing is the personality of the players. When I play NBA2k11 I truly feel for example when I use Kobe I actually am using kobe from the post moves to the way he dribbles to the way he walks, drives the lane and yells at the ref lol etc. I feel that in the show players in the game do very similar things except for hitting and pitching. But what about the emotion that Jose Valverde brings on the mound. The always smiling robinson cano. The way brain wilson is a character in its self. I hope next year they really imply what 2k has done with showing the personality of the player and swagger. What do you guys Think????
    Last edited by Sefjones1234; 09-12-2011, 01:47 AM.
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    Mabster
    Crunchy
    • Mar 2009
    • 7659

    Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


    Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

    Originally posted by Sefjones1234
    But what about the emotion that vladimir guerrero brings on the mound.
    Wait, what? I was with you till that part. Vlad on the mound? He was known for his gun when he played RF but I don't think he's ever pitched

    But seriously, they're already on top of this.

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-mlb-12-a.html

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-mlb-12-a.html

    I'm sure the problem that SCEA has with doing this is that you're dealing with so MANY players when it comes to MLB. It's really time consuming to get everyone of them to have distinct personalities.
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    • #3
      Arod2k9
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      • Mar 2009
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      Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


      Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

      Originally posted by Sefjones1234
      MLB 11 is great!!! The improvement they make on a year to year basis is truly impressive. With the addition of the analog stick hitting throwing etc. For the first time is pretty good and i know they will improve even further for next year. The one thing I do feel is missing is the personality of the players. When I play NBA2k11 I truly feel for example when I use Kobe I actually am using kobe from the post moves to the way he dribbles to the way he walks, drives the lane and yells at the ref lol etc. I feel that in the show players in the game do very similar things except for hitting and pitching. But what about the emotion that vladimir guerrero brings on the mound. The always smiling robinson cano. The way brain wilson is a character in its self. I hope next year they really imply what 2k has done with showing the personality of the player and swagger. What do you guys Think????
      I totally disagree with you, players swagger and personality in the Show is the best I have ever seen in a sports game. For example take a look at Alex Rodriguez he is super serious and confident in contrast to Pirates SS Brandon Wood who is super shy and acts as if doesn't belong in the majors leagues. Hence, he a .180 career batting ave lol. Take a close look at Longoria, Cody Ross, Justin Upton and those players essence is also captured. I feel this is the best part of the Show and it brings the game to life. The attention to detail on the stars and rookies is just incredible. I'm already looking forward to playing with the bunch of rookies from this season Yanks Jesus Montero, Giants Brandon Crawford, Seattle's Kyle Seager, Dustin Ackley, Trayvon Robinson. Is it March yet???

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      • #4
        bwiggy33
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        • Jul 2006
        • 2003

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        Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

        Sorry but I couldn't disagree more with the OP. IMO player personalities is one of the best things this game has to offer. Most of the batting stances and pitching motions are down pat. I truly feel like each player has a personality. It's actually creepy how playing with each player is so different and cool. Also it's one thing for the NBA to have players actual personalities in a video game. With NBA video games you can see every player on the court all of the time. This brings out every person's character. In MLB video games you only see a select few of the players at a time. Most of the time it's just the batter, pitcher, and catcher. The only way to show their character is through batting stances, pitching motions, etc, and they have that already. They spend the perfect amount of time updating this stuff already.

        Also they do show players emotions on the mound. Brian Wilson goes crazy when he completes the save and does the X with his arms as celebration. Also Jose Valverde (most intense closer of them all) goes nuts when he completes a save. In fact when he's brought into the game Vasgersian says "and here comes the ever entertaining Jose Valverde." They capture the emotion of the players so well already.
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        • #5
          Sefjones1234
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          • Nov 2004
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          Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

          It more of a cutscene than in realtime. I am looking for the way they run. The way O-DOG is always yapping. Nothing really happens in realtime and also coaches. I would like to see coaches show more emotion like tony la russa etc.

          For Example Look at these two of Nyjer Morgan

          The Show Ex. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAW1Xkc_ZRU
          (After the catch no emotion no nyjer antics)

          Real Nyjer. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play****p?content_id=18611909

          Look at how Nyjer after the catch doing the Shaka symbols with is fingers. The reason why the camera stay on them so we can see those kind of things.
          Last edited by Sefjones1234; 09-12-2011, 02:42 AM.

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          • #6
            eyeamg0dly
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            • May 2009
            • 1671

            Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


            Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

            i think the op does have a point, it would be nice after a big play to see players show some emotion and then see the crowd reaction. even if some of the cams cant catch it, would be nice to see in replay. nba2k does a great job with animations, sometimes i wish we could see more customizable animation packages in the show. for fielding as an example, the higher the fielding rating the different animation packages you see the player do. so someone with a low rating would have a more basic approach and someone with a higher rating will be more spectacular.
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            • #7
              Mabster
              Crunchy
              • Mar 2009
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              Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


              Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

              Originally posted by eyeamg0dly
              ...for fielding as an example, the higher the fielding rating the different animation packages you see the player do. so someone with a low rating would have a more basic approach and someone with a higher rating will be more spectacular.
              I'm almost positive that's already in The Show. Some infielders won't show certain animations (e.g. backhand sliding grab of a grounder) because their ratings aren't high enough.
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              • #8
                theaub
                Stop! Homer Time!
                • Feb 2004
                • 9643

                Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


                Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

                Originally posted by Mabster
                I'm almost positive that's already in The Show. Some infielders won't show certain animations (e.g. backhand sliding grab of a grounder) because their ratings aren't high enough.
                Yeah, but you should be seeing guys like Jeter make the jump throw compared to other guys who just plant and throw. The animations should (and I know this is very difficult) be player based instead of rating based.

                And I agree 100% with OP in general. Players should just have different types of personalities (stoic, argumentative, excited, cocky etc) and play types, and then specific animations would be designed based on that. In the game, hitting a routine grounder to short with Brett Lawrie and Yunel Escobar is the exact same, but in real life Lawrie is busting it down the line while Escobar is jogging out of the box. Or using Lawrie again, if he gets a big hit he's hopping around and fist pumping, while someone like Adam Lind doesn't really have any reaction. If stuff like that would be in the game it would really move it to the next level.
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                • #9
                  Mabster
                  Crunchy
                  • Mar 2009
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                  Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

                  Originally posted by theaub
                  Yeah, but you should be seeing guys like Jeter make the jump throw compared to other guys who just plant and throw. The animations should (and I know this is very difficult) be player based instead of rating based.
                  If I come across as argumentative that's not my intent but those animations aren't completely ratings based either. Fielding animations also vary depending on settings and user input and isn't hard coded to be the same for everybody player. I like the current system in which the human input decides what happens on the field.

                  I do like what you said about different player personalities types though. That would be a cool feature/attribute to add to created players for minor leaguers or RTTS. That way created players would have a base personality and you could make a level headed Mariano Rivera type player or a crazy excited Jose Valverde type and their personalities would come across on the field at key moments.
                  Last edited by Mabster; 09-12-2011, 08:17 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Sefjones1234
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                    • Nov 2004
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                    Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

                    MLB the show has the most important part of creating a great sports game down. which is gameplay.

                    But to take it to the next level like (NBA2k) they need to have player's emotions, personalities, and signatures.

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                    • #11
                      moemoe24
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                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1996

                      Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


                      Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

                      Originally posted by Sefjones1234
                      MLB the show has the most important part of creating a great sports game down. which is gameplay.

                      But to take it to the next level like (NBA2k) they need to have player's emotions, personalities, and signatures.
                      I'm a long time player of The Show and I'll have to agree with you on the personality for each player lacking. There is really no difference in how say Arod acts to say Jason Donald. Most of the swing animations are dead on but that doesn't show personality.

                      They also really need to find a fix for the weather issue. It's a small thing but in baseball the weather is an issue sometimes since it's played outside. Nothing more dishearttinign than to be playing in Texas in august and it being 75 degrees. The average in Texas during august is like 95. Thats just not realistic at all

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                      • #12
                        Cavicchi
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2841

                        Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show


                        Re: The one thing that is I feel that is missing in the show

                        What I feel is missing most is a capable scorer! My catcher getting an error on ball four is ridiculous. The other scoring thing that drivers me nuts is seeing my fielder bobble a ball without getting an error while CPU fielders get an error on same play. I use auto fielding.

                        I wouldn't say game-play is perfect. There are too many spectacular fielding plays by CPU players who have mediocre fielding ratings.

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