Trade Logic in The Show 12?

[Comp625]

I've been scouring through the Q&A and Impressions thread, and there are a lot of mixed messages about whether or not the Trade Logic actually works this year. I know Trade Logic will never be perfect, but it just seemed so wacky in last year's game. Here are some paraphrased comments from around OS:

- One post said that Albert Pujols was put on the Angels' Trade Block when he simmed through Franchise mode.
- In a different franchise, the user said the contending Rangers traded away C.J. Wilson.
- The Trade Logic is pretty good about understanding a team's needs throughout the season (Contending Mode, Sell Mode) but that it needs work when an injury takes place (a team will go out and snatch a new replacement up too quickly)
- Another person said that Jeter was traded for 3 prospects (but didn't elaborate on the Yankees' status or needs)
- Someone even said that it was so bad as to suggest keeping control of all 30 teams' roster changes before starting a new franchise.

Are there any other comments or thoughts?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

I have not seen pujols traded on any sim. Putting a player on the block is fine imo.

There is some wonky logic here. I have seen miami in 1st place and in team strategy listed as rebuilding.

In my opinion Rp and C(when there is an injury) are valued too high. Trades are pretty subjective though but there are some head scratchers. Big names are not traded very frequently.

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Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

Considering im more of a management guy rather then actual gameplay, if what ur saying is true, this game would not be as fun for me....I read the previews for The Show and it was stated that the trade logic would be improved this year...i guess i'll find out sooner or later how wonky it really is....After what we had to go thru as far as the Madden trading of draft-picks logic goes, i was hoping, the trade logic on The Show would be improved by leaps and bounds as i don't have the time to be controlling all the teams

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Considering im more of a management guy rather then actual gameplay, if what ur saying is true, this game would not be as fun for me....I read the previews for The Show and it was stated that the trade logic would be improved this year...i guess i'll find out sooner or later how wonky it really is....After what we had to go thru as far as the Madden trading of draft-picks logic goes, i was hoping, the trade logic on The Show would be improved by leaps and bounds as i don't have the time to be controlling all the teams

Well like I said...its very subjective. I just feel the CPU values RP and gives up too much for them. And when there is an injury to a C they give up too much to fill that hole even though they have better options in their own system.

Teams try to get that vet for the stretch run. But when I get more time I want to track the team strategies. Like I said I saw Miami in first in July once and listed as rebuilding so that could have an affect.



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[hitstreak13]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

Considering im more of a management guy rather then actual gameplay, if what ur saying is true, this game would not be as fun for me....I read the previews for The Show and it was stated that the trade logic would be improved this year...i guess i'll find out sooner or later how wonky it really is....After what we had to go thru as far as the Madden trading of draft-picks logic goes, i was hoping, the trade logic on The Show would be improved by leaps and bounds as i don't have the time to be controlling all the teams

Yea, franchise trades are still a ways off. I understand the game doesn't understand "Heath Bell" but he got traded in year 1 for a C and B prosepct (a C catcher and B SS) when the Marlins were 2 GB in the Wild Card (a bit premature here for sure).

There was a baseball game back in the mid 2000's that gave users the option in which the CPU cannot trade players who were an 80 overall or higher, trade A prospects, etc. I hope this gets implemented in future iterations.

Don't get me wrong, the trades are much improved and would never expect them to be perfect, but still a bit too many head scratchers IMO. Definitely gonna have to use 30 team control again.

[rdub78]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

Seeing Miami in 1st place and in rebuilding mode is kinda a disappointment as I was really looking forward to team roles this year.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Seeing Miami in 1st place and in rebuilding mode is kinda a disappointment as I was really looking forward to team roles this year.

Well I want to see it again because if it is there again it would be a bug. I need to look for it next time I run some Sims.

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[lastlastlast]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

OK so in my sim Marlins I do this trade:

Mariano, Kuroda, A-Rod
for Bell and 2 roster fillers

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Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

Well like I said...its very subjective. I just feel the CPU values RP and gives up too much for them. And when there is an injury to a C they give up too much to fill that hole even though they have better options in their own system.

Teams try to get that vet for the stretch run. But when I get more time I want to track the team strategies. Like I said I saw Miami in first in July once and listed as rebuilding so that could have an affect.



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that has to be a mistake.....unless the CPU was planning on tanking the rest of the season lol

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Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

OK so in my sim Marlins I do this trade:

Mariano, Kuroda, A-Rod
for Bell and 2 roster fillers

i cant even comment on that trade...it's just so......*insert appropriate word*

[lastlastlast]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

yeah right now before osfm comes out im just messing around and making crazy blockbuster trades.

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Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

yeah right now before osfm comes out im just messing around and making crazy blockbuster trades.

i'll take Stanton, Hanley, and Reyes for my entire starting 9 lol

[tabarnes19_SDS]

that has to be a mistake.....unless the CPU was planning on tanking the rest of the season lol

That's what I'm thinking. Doesn't seem right.

I've seen really cool trades where a team like kc will load up with prospects for a future run.

Like I've said in my impressions...logic is not bad, but maybe a few tweaks. I never look at names either. You can't think like a "human "

Edit: also the CPU will trade out of places of strength. Teams like Tampa with lots if starting pitching will trade one. The new trade block screen even lists by color where strengths lie esc....very nice feature.

At one point I saw Anaheim trade haren to the yanks for soriano an a starting pitcher and a first baseman. Both were in first place. After looking more closely the trade made complete sense for both teams.

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[Comp625]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

I wish there was an option to allow Team Control, while still enabling the CPU to make moves.

Personally, I don't have the time or capacity to monitor and play as GM for all 30 teams throughout the entire season.

But it would be nice to have the ability to "reverse" the CPU's illogical trades, or to play GM for all the teams around the trade deadline. I remember doing that in MVP Baseball 2005 and I was able to add some spice into rival teams heading into August and September.

[rdub78]

Re: Trade Logic in The Show 12?

I wish there was an option to allow Team Control, while still enabling the CPU to make moves.

Personally, I don't have the time or capacity to monitor and play as GM for all 30 teams throughout the entire season.

But it would be nice to have the ability to "reverse" the CPU's illogical trades, or to play GM for all the teams around the trade deadline. I remember doing that in MVP Baseball 2005 and I was able to add some spice into rival teams heading into August and September.

Im pretty sure you can go in and oversee things as necessary.

30 team control doesnt mean you have to do everything for every team.