Lineup logic still needs a lot of work

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

This is partly why I want to see variable manager tendency than a fix-them-all approach.

This right here, because every manager has a different approach to building their lineup.

Hell Mike Scioscia had Maicer Izturis hitting 3rd 3 years ago.

[WazzuRC]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

This right here, because every manager has a different approach to building their lineup. Hell Mike Scioscia had Maicer Izturis hitting 3rd 3 years ago.

Eric Wedge had Miguel Olivo as the cleanup hitter for a stretch last year...nuff said.

[thundergatti]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vashyron.

I've played only 10 games now and I've already seen Carlos Beltran and Jayson Werth batting leadoff. And, the Rockies had Todd Helton batting 8th. It's seriously not that hard to write lineup logic. This is the 9th game in the series, lineup logic should be good by now. I realize some teams have odd lineups like Alfonso Soriano used to be a leadoff hitter so you can't ask the lineup logic to reflect real baseball perfectly, but the attributes of both Jayson Werth and Carlos Beltran do not indicate they are leadoff hitters, both have too much power. And, how and why is Todd Helton hitting 8th? It makes no sense to have someone with those kind of attributes hitting 8th.

I don't have the game. However, I don't believe that the two examples you cited are out of the realm of reason. Beltran has one of the greatest SB success rates in history, and hasn't Werth batted leadoff in the past, as well?

More important for me is the CPU pitcher AI management. Can anyone share what they've seen in this regard? Thanks.

[Redacted01]

Quote: Originally Posted by thundergatti

I don't have the game. However, I don't believe that the two examples you cited are out of the realm of reason. Beltran has one of the greatest SB success rates in history, and hasn't Werth batted leadoff in the past, as well? More important for me is the CPU pitcher AI management. Can anyone share what they've seen in this regard? Thanks.

41 career games at lead off. 24 I think last year.

[Skyboxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

This right here, because every manager has a different approach to building their lineup. Hell Mike Scioscia had Maicer Izturis hitting 3rd 3 years ago.

I have zip, ziltch, nothing even remotely related to programming knowledge so if this is totally stupid... then :P

Along with the different approaches for different managers...
Could there be an option/settings in the game at some point where we could set up and name different strategies. Then assign to teams?
Like an order of importance:
Power, Contact, Overall, speed,etc..
Then the game looks at and balances it out with our criteria (lets name this one "Agressive")
then we could go to whatever team and assign the one we named "Aggresive"
to that team and they use it.

Even then I know not everyone would be happy with the outcome (we'll never have it to where everyone is happy).

I'm just sitting at work in a dead time..thinking out loud.

[geardust]

Anyone over 50-60 power doesn't bat leadoff? See Ian Kinsler.

I have seen some weird situations also (Adam Dunn batting leadoff), but it is in no way a game killer. Just roll with it.

[il blood il]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vashyron.

I've played only 10 games now and I've already seen Carlos Beltran and Jayson Werth batting leadoff. And, the Rockies had Todd Helton batting 8th. It's seriously not that hard to write lineup logic. This is the 9th game in the series, lineup logic should be good by now. I realize some teams have odd lineups like Alfonso Soriano used to be a leadoff hitter so you can't ask the lineup logic to reflect real baseball perfectly, but the attributes of both Jayson Werth and Carlos Beltran do not indicate they are leadoff hitters, both have too much power. And, how and why is Todd Helton hitting 8th? It makes no sense to have someone with those kind of attributes hitting 8th.

um i know u touched on this within this paragraph but ian kinsler bats leadoff and smacked 31 bombs...some coaches want power at the top for early leads

[Redacted01]

Some people have the idea of only the 1st 3 innings (or so) ingrained in their head. Once the game has started, the lineup is merely an order. I'd want my power hitters hitting as high as reasonably possible so they get more at bats. Batting 1st or 2nd vs. 3rd or 4th is quite a few plate appearances by the end of the year.