No guess pitch?

[bloodyredsox]

Hello Everyone,

I have been playing the show since 2006. Its the only video game I play and needless to say I love it. This years version is just flat out amazing. Last years version I really hated. Why? Well it was my fault I got to overwhelmed with the right sliders, the right roster the right team, stats etc. This year im just going to take everyone's advice. I have started a season with the Miami Marlins, using TNK sliders, and OSFM roster. The only question I have is I no longer want to use guess pitch.

I rake to much this year and I often see post were most people don't even use guess pitch. I can read pitches, work the count and have a pretty good eye. However how do you call time out when you don't use guess pitch? When this function is on I would simply push the R 2 button until I was ready for the pitch to be deliver but now with this function off I cant do that, I feel rushed. How do you call time out? Any ways just want to see how you guys do without guess pitch and how it works out for you.

[pistolpete]

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You gotta call it when the ball is getting thrown back to the pitcher, otherwise you're stuck. If the phone rings, I get an email or text I consider that the take sign.

No guess pitch is awesome btw.

[BrandH]

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Down on the D-Pad makes the batter call time and step out of the box.

[fullmetal2405]

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What settings do you use for presentation? I have never used Guess Pitch and also never felt rushed. I play with the broadcast settings and find the mini-cutscenes in between pitches provide more than enough time to get ready for the next one.

[tonadom]

Guess Pitch Should Not Be Overused

I was gonna make this post a seperate thread, but since this thread title fits, I'll post it here.

I normally play with guess pitch off, but I was lookin' to draw more walks and guess pitch 1/6 did that for me. I played one month of a season using it. You know what else it did ? It made it almost impossible for the Yankees to get a hit. I'll explain.

I was overusing it. Every pitch, I would guess low fastball because low pitches is what I had trouble gauging, but the penalty completely flattened my offense. I recommend nobody use guess pitch 1/6 because even when I guessed right, the outcome was weak. It feels like there is no reward.

I just played a game with guess pitch off, it was totally different. The game rewards you for putting the PCI on the ball.

Bottom line is this: I never knew guess pitch had such a huge impact on the outcome of at bats.

[ShowTyme15]

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I was gonna make this post a seperate thread, but since this thread title fits, I'll post it here.

I normally play with guess pitch off, but I was lookin' to draw more walks and guess pitch 1/6 did that for me. You know what else it did ? It made it almost impossible for the Yankees to get a hit. I'll explain.

I was overusing it. Every pitch, I would guess low fastball because low pitches is what I had trouble gauging, but the penalty completely flattened my offense. I recommend nobody use guess pitch 1/6 because even when I guessed right, the outcome was weak. It feels like there is no reward.

I just played a game with guess pitch off, it was totally different. The game rewards you for putting the PCI on the ball.

Bottom line is this: I never knew guess pitch had such a huge impact on the outcome of at bats.

This will be fixed this year as they have opened the timing window for batters. So you won't get penalized all the time when you have great timing and contact on the ball.

[SportsGamingBlake]

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I don't see how you guys can not use guess pitch and still be good. I use it every single pitch and still get average results. I just got a PS3 and MLB 12 in October so I guess I'm still somewhat of a noob even though I don't feel like one anymore and its probably a lot easier for you guys who have been playing The Show since '06 or even just a few years. I know this sounds really stupid, but it works for me; I always guess fastball and vary my location depending on the count and stuff, but unless I guess the pitch type AND location correctly, I don't swing unless I have two strikes, which is really the only time I really have to focus. So I'll do that for one inning, and alternate every inning and in the other innings swinging if I guess EITHER location or pitch type correctly. This way the pitcher's pitch count stays within a realistic range because when I only swing if I guess everything correctly or wait for two strikes, the pitcher's pitch count can get above 20 or 25 per inning a lot of times, with the other ways it stays around 10 (I consider an "average" pitch count between 14-16 per inning, that way you get to 100 sometime in the 6th or 7th if everything goes smoothly.). I still get pretty good box score results and I'd say I win between 55%-60% of games which is good. For some reason this is what works but I'm going to have to try and break this habit and figure out another hitting strategy in '13. So tips are appreciated. :P

BTW I use timing hitting too. I know, I know.... NOOOOOOOB!

[tonadom]

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I don't see how you guys can not use guess pitch and still be good. I use it every single pitch and still get average results.:

It takes a lot of patience, hand eye coordination, and just a good amount of time playing without guess pitch to get comfortable with it off, but in my opinion, it really is the best way to play the game.

What style of guess pitch do you use? Classic 1/6 has the worst reward and the harshest penalty.

[Armor and Sword]

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I don't see how you guys can not use guess pitch and still be good. I use it every single pitch and still get average results. I just got a PS3 and MLB 12 in October so I guess I'm still somewhat of a noob even though I don't feel like one anymore and its probably a lot easier for you guys who have been playing The Show since '06 or even just a few years. I know this sounds really stupid, but it works for me; I always guess fastball and vary my location depending on the count and stuff, but unless I guess the pitch type AND location correctly, I don't swing unless I have two strikes, which is really the only time I really have to focus. So I'll do that for one inning, and alternate every inning and in the other innings swinging if I guess EITHER location or pitch type correctly. This way the pitcher's pitch count stays within a realistic range because when I only swing if I guess everything correctly or wait for two strikes, the pitcher's pitch count can get above 20 or 25 per inning a lot of times, with the other ways it stays around 10 (I consider an "average" pitch count between 14-16 per inning, that way you get to 100 sometime in the 6th or 7th if everything goes smoothly.). I still get pretty good box score results and I'd say I win between 55%-60% of games which is good. For some reason this is what works but I'm going to have to try and break this habit and figure out another hitting strategy in '13. So tips are appreciated. :P

BTW I use timing hitting too. I know, I know.... NOOOOOOOB!

I don't use guess pitch...and I consider myself a good hitter.

Patience, pitch recognition and did I mention patience? Working the count is vital.

Also having a good set of sliders is helpful in getting the CPU to stop pounding the zone all the time so you can draw walks and more importantly get deep counts, and hitter counts where they are forced to throw it down main street and you can just sit on pitches.

The beauty of The Show is Aces really feel like Aces and a 5th starter or fringe middle reliever play like their real life counterparts. But every now and then they pitch well. And every now and then I can chase an Ace out of the game within 4-5 innings.

I go through hot streaks, cold streaks....the whole enchilada.

I have guess pitch 1/4 on. But I never use it anymore.

On The Show 2009 I used it all the time then realized it hurt more than it helped.

I also only play on timed hitting which is my favorite low stress way to enjoy The Show and get the most sim experience (based on player ratings).

[MrChainsaw]

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There's no shame in using Timing hitting. As a full time college student who will also soon have a full time job I don't have the hundreds of hours I used to to practice hitting so I find it's the least stressful way to play the game. And like someone above me said, it still gives very realistic results based on your hitters.

[ksig24]

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One of the best aspects of this game is that you really get rewarded by having a baseball mind. I have been down in counts and fought back to walk. I have taken four straight balls with the bases loaded against the top closers in the game. I play with a very serious set of sliders and all visual aids off on Legend difficulty. Another key is to use your contact swing and I cannot reitterate this enough.

[baef]

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I still use guess pitch, each year I tell myself I am gonna break my habit of it but I just can't. I use 1/4 Classic guess pitch and use it to guard the bottom half of the plate. I guess down and fast ball every time. I can read the pitches pretty well but I just feel like I have to use guess pitch or I end up swinging at pitches below the knees.

Like everyone says, the key to good hitting is waiting on a good pitch. If you swing at a pitch out of the zone, the pitcher is going to pitch you out of the zone again. Work the count, you will get a better pitch to hit.

[tonadom]

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I can't stress this enough to people who use guess pitch. You will hit better with it off. I understand you use it to help you read pitches, but I can't stress the negative effect it has on hitting in this game enough.

I went back to playing with guess pitch off and I'm doin' well. I'm drawing walks and my offense is more suitable to the team of hitters I have. In fact, I've been knockin' the cover off the ball with some guys.

Taking balls ( low in the zone mostly ) is the hardest thing for me to do without guess pitch, but you know what ? It should be because it's the same story for major league hitters.

A little background info here - I play on All-Star with the power slider down 2 notches from default. I also reduced the fielder speed and pitch speed.

[SportsGamingBlake]

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Thank you to everyone who gave tips & feedback! In 13 I will definitely try beginner mode and try to stop using guess pitch. I tried it last night in 12 but I couldn't have hit the ball if my life depended on it. I guess I just need more practice but it is so frustrating sometimes. & I use default guess pitch @tonadom. A big thing for me is that it's just a habit to swinging at the very first pitch that's anywhere in the zone which usually leads to a lot of 2 or 3 pitch at bats and one of my biggest pet peeves in baseball games is when you have a starter with only 50 pitches through 7 innings or something like that.

[tonadom]

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Thank you to everyone who gave tips & feedback! In 13 I will definitely try beginner mode and try to stop using guess pitch. I tried it last night in 12 but I couldn't have hit the ball if my life depended on it. I guess I just need more practice but it is so frustrating sometimes. & I use default guess pitch @tonadom. A big thing for me is that it's just a habit to swinging at the very first pitch that's anywhere in the zone which usually leads to a lot of 2 or 3 pitch at bats and one of my biggest pet peeves in baseball games is when you have a starter with only 50 pitches through 7 innings or something like that.

I know what you mean. I have a style of playing. I'll tell you some of it. It may help. This is how I approach every at bat:

First pitch - I don't use the left analog stick at this point. If I don't think the pitch will end up around the middle of the zone, I'm not swingin'. If I have a power hitter, I'm using a power swing. Otherwise, I'm using the normal swing.

1 Strike on me - If I think the ball will end up anywhere in the zone, I'm trying to put my bat on it ( using the left analog stick ) with the X button.

2 Strikes on me - Same as above except my "anywhere in the zone" is expanded to cover possible strikes on the edges of the zone. I've fought off a lot of questionable pitches with very late swings.

3 Balls 0 Strikes or 3 Balls 1 Strike - I approach it like it's the First pitch.