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  • js3512
    Banned
    • May 2012
    • 437

    #1

    Unrealistic sim stats

    Has anyone had an issue where, if you sim thru a season your top rated guys finish with horrible stats but then your guys with bad ratings finish with respectable stats? I've done this 3 times now and every time Castro (even after boosting his contact ratings) has finished with an average in the .240's or lower. That's just one example of course but it's generally the trend across the board all 3 times. Seems to go for pitchers too. Dempster & Garza have ERA's in the 5-6 range while Chris Volstad is down around 2.50 (even finished below 2 in one season). What gives?
  • nomo17k
    Permanently Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #2
    Re: Unrealistic sim stats

    It's not that the sim stats are poorly tied to ratings. *On average,* you will get realistic results. The key of course is the word "average"...

    Say Contact = 90 corresponds to .300 hitter. That's the average batting average (how confusing) you'd expect from him *over a long run.* Due to the year-to-year variance in performance, however, he might hit .250 one year while hitting .350 the next. The average for the two years is of course .300, where you expect (for the same number of at bats of course).

    I'm one of those who do extensive testing on this type of thing, and I observe this to be the case... the sim stats are mostly realistic *on average.* However, I'd agree if you say the year-to-year variance appears larger than what we'd expect from more consistent MLB players. That's not a scientific statement since I haven't explicitly tested this, but I do see a player hitting .250 one year but .350 next. That type of performance fluctuation in sim stats is common in this game.
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    • saturn2187
      Rookie
      • Jun 2010
      • 276

      #3
      Re: Unrealistic sim stats

      Yup, I am at the all star break in my season and here are Joe Nathan's stats that have been simmed:

      1-0, 30 IP, 27 SV, 0.00 ERA, 0.50 WHIP.

      Meanwhile, Stephen Strasburg:

      4-6, 5.25 ERA

      Mike Leake: 11-1, 3.06 ERA

      Weird.

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      • js3512
        Banned
        • May 2012
        • 437

        #4
        Re: Unrealistic sim stats

        I really hope they do something to make them more consistent next year. I can see varying from .280 to .320 for a .300 hitter but .250 to .350 is a lil absurd.

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        • DustinOverbay
          Rookie
          • Nov 2009
          • 89

          #5
          Re: Unrealistic sim stats

          Meh, I have a pitcher, I have thrown 4-5 no hitters with him, and he is almost #1 overall on the yankees in 2019 and has gone 20-5. The past two he has gone 11-11 and 13-7.
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          • yanksrule3
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            • Jun 2012
            • 171

            #6
            For some reason prince fielder always hits like 350 when he should be hitting 270ish

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            • dbacks_Nation
              Pro
              • Jan 2012
              • 705

              #7
              Re: Unrealistic sim stats

              Originally posted by yanksrule3
              For some reason prince fielder always hits like 350 when he should be hitting 270ish

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              You realize that Prince Fielder has never batted below .271 in his entire career, right?
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              • yanksrule3
                Banned
                • Jun 2012
                • 171

                #8
                He still isn't a 300 hitter

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                • Bullit
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5004

                  #9
                  Re: Unrealistic sim stats

                  Originally posted by yanksrule3
                  He still isn't a 300 hitter

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                  He is hitting .305 as of today, just so you know. And he hit .299 last year.
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                  • Richard.Chaffin
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 70

                    #10
                    Re: Unrealistic sim stats

                    Originally posted by yanksrule3
                    He still isn't a 300 hitter

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                    I wouldn't say that. Have you even looked up his season stats. He has batted .288 twice, .299 twice, and is batting .305 right now. Thats not far off a .300 hitter.

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                    • Richard.Chaffin
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 70

                      #11
                      Re: Unrealistic sim stats

                      Originally posted by dbacks_Nation
                      You realize that Prince Fielder has never batted below .271 in his entire career, right?
                      This also isn't true, since he batted .261 in 2010

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                      • kaptainkarl76
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 336

                        #12
                        Re: Unrealistic sim stats

                        Right now in my season it is the All-Star break and Prince Fielder leads in just about every offensive category..including hair

                        Triple Crown so far

                        .370, 75 RBI, 35HR

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                        • Hootiefish
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 933

                          #13
                          Re: Unrealistic sim stats

                          Originally posted by js3512
                          I really hope they do something to make them more consistent next year. I can see varying from .280 to .320 for a .300 hitter but .250 to .350 is a lil absurd.
                          Exhibit A: Melky Cabrera
                          2010: .255
                          2012: .353

                          Exhibit B: Hanley Ramirez
                          2009: .342
                          2011: .243

                          Exhibit C: Ryan Dempster
                          2011: 4.80 ERA
                          2012: 2.25 ERA

                          Verdict: Year-to-year statistics are extremely variable. Hell, even Dave Kingman batted .288 once (career .236).
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