PCI question... Might be a problem

[JT30]

I'm not sure if the PCI is working as intended. I just recently went from timing to zone hitting, and before the cpu pitches, if you press square or circle once, the size of the receptacle changes accordingly... Bigger for contact and smaller for power. However when I contact or power swing, the PCI changes back to its normal size.

I then swung at the pitch with either contact or power and I noticed that the receptacle never changes (bigger or smaller)

Is this a bug?

[nomo17k]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

I believe the PCI size changes depending on your timing against each pitch. Each swing type has the base size, but it grows/shrinks depending on how you timed against each pitch. For example, against an offspeed pitch, PCI size tends to grow presumably to simulate the more extended time for a hitter to judge its location.

[JT30]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

Ok that's good to know. So pressing contact or power before the pitcher throws the ball just shows you the difference in size of the receptacle size? But when I swing using contact or power, there might be a variation in that size?

The reason why I ask is because whether I swing with power or contact, the size of the receptacle never changes.

I know with analog and zone hitting, you are supposed to select the type of swing first, then use the stick to swing.

This isn't the same for just zone hitting right? Meaning I select contact, normal or power before the pitch and then swing with the X button?

[nomo17k]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

You are doing it wrong I think...

For Analog-based hitting, you preload the type of swing before you swing with the R3.

For button-based hitting (i.e., Zone), you swing with pressing one of [], X, or O.

[mike65]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

I am experincing this too. What he's trying to say I think is that he will select power or contact and the PCI changes before the pitch. However, during the pitch the PCI always reverts back to the contact PCI. It's very annoying because you have to remember exactly what the power PCI looked like.

[NelsonBis]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

"For Analog-based hitting, you preload the type of swing before you swing with the R3."

This is incorrect, pre pitch press square, X or O for whatever type of hit you want to achieve then the right stick is used for the stride and hit as the ball is delivered.

[nomo17k]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

"For Analog-based hitting, you preload the type of swing before you swing with the R3."

This is incorrect, pre pitch press square, X or O for whatever type of hit you want to achieve then the right stick is used for the stride and hit as the ball is delivered.

Sorry I was just unclear. What I meant was:

For Analog-based hitting, you preload the type of swing by pressing one of [] (power), X (regular), and O (contact), before you stride and swing with R3.

[jmik58]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

I use zone hitting exclusively and the PCI doesn't revert back to anything from my experience. The change in size pre-pitch is just a visual cue as to what you're working with. If your placement of the PCI and timing are perfect then the PCI can actually look rather large when you swing which might give you the false impression that the game thought you used a contact or normal swing. Just keep doing what you're doing.

[cemprae48]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

The PCI does shrink in ZONE hitting if you are using guess pitch and guess wrong... Is this what you mean?

[stealyerface]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

The PCI will change based on the batter, the pitcher, the type of pitch, and the timing.

If you use Ortiz as an example, and regular swing at a 2-0 pitch, the PCI will be larger than if the count is 0-2, when you look at the feedback screen.

I have noticed a rather large swing in PCI size, within the same at bat (NO guess Pitch), which I love. Your coverage should be better if you are ahead in the count, and if you Power swing with the count in your favor, there is a definite difference between the COI versus trying to Power swing with a pitcher's count against you.

I think one of the best parts of the hitting engine is this dynamic PCI, and how based on the pitcher's confidence, pitch type, and the batter's ability, not for just each batter, but for each pitch of the at bat.

Fantastic.

~syf

[JT30]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

The PCI does shrink in ZONE hitting if you are using guess pitch and guess wrong... Is this what you mean?

No, I dont use guess pitch. What I'm saying is that when I'm up at bat and before the CPU throws a pitch, I can press the [] for power or O for contact, and the PCI changes size on the screen. Smaller for power and larger for contact. However, when the CPU pitches and I swing with either [] or O, the PCI does not change in size at all.

I'm wondering why that is? When I swing with [] or O, the PCI stays the same size as if I am swinging with X.

Not sure why this is happening.

Next time you play, before the CPU pitches, press the [] or O and you will see the PCI change size. However, when you actually swing, the PCI goes back to the normal PCI size for a normal swing. It happens whether I press [] or O to swing.

[stealyerface]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

JT, are you playing with Analog or Zone hitting?

If you are using Zone hitting, you don't choose the Contact, Power or Normal beforehand, you actually swing with the buttons, by pressing that button. Square for Power and Circle for Contact.

~syf

[JT30]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

JT, are you playing with Analog or Zone hitting?

If you are using Zone hitting, you don't choose the Contact, Power or Normal beforehand, you actually swing with the buttons, by pressing that button. Square for Power and Circle for Contact.

~syf

I'm using zone hitting. I understand with analog - zone hitting, you select the type of swing you want with [], X, or O. After you do that, then you swing with the analog stick. I havent tried this mode, but after you select power, contact, or normal, does the PCI change size and stay like that when you start your swing with the analog stick?

I'm only bringing this up because there have been weird things with options in the past (i.e., fielding circle, ball landing spot, etc) and I'm wondering why in zone hitting I can press one of the swing buttons prior to the pitch and see the change of size in the PCI. But yet when I swing with the [] or O, the PCI reverts back to the normal PCI size as if I was swinging using the X button.

[stealyerface]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

Well just remember that even if you use the Square button for a power swing, there will be different sized PCI for the count, and the pitch you swung at...

I have used the normal swing button (x), and then checked the PCI after the swing, and after swinging at a sinker and missing it by a foot, the PCI was the size of a dime. But on a following swing using the X button, that fastball I hit had a much larger PCI, but I pressed the same button.

The way I believe it works, is a dynamic ever-changing plate coverage (as it ought to be) based on the situation, the pitch, the pitcher, and the count. Just because you choose a power swing, the PCI is not going to be the same size for a 0-2 splitter as it is for a 3-1 fastball.

So it is possbile that you chose the contact swing, but made a bad swing at a bad pitch, thereby decreasing the size of the PCI to that of a normal or even power swing....

~syf

[willIam9387]

Re: PCI question... Might be a problem

I understand what the OP is talking about, if you press square before the pitch it does get smaller but reverts back to default.