CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

[tgreer]

I am running a CPU vs CPU season along with MOM my Royals when it is their turn on the schedule. Here are some stats through 34 games compared to real life 2019 in (). All Default except both SB Sliders up +1 and Wind down to 0. I was seeing too many home runs with wind at Default

AB 34.22 (34.29)
R 4.38 (4.83) Bumping Errors up will help this a little
H 8.71 (8.65)
E 0.25 (0.60) Think all 4 Error sliders need to move up a notch
2B 1.79 (1.75)
3B 0.04 (0.16)
HR 1.50 (1.40) Wind to 0 has really helped as my last test set was 1.90
BB 2.69 (3.27)
K 8.74 (8.81)
SB 0.26 (0.47)
CS 0.15 (0.17)
DP 1.04 (0.71)
HBP 0.28 (0.41)
SP IP 5.18 (5.20)
AVG .254 (.252)

All in all kudos to the developers this game plays great! You have to believe their testing for accurate stats is done similar to just letting the AI play it out and go from there. The rest is just Human Interaction to the guys who are just playing the game (depending on individuals skill level etc) I sure hope they don't patch gameplay as I am loving this game

[Incognito]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Thanks for sharing. I haven't had a lot of time to test enough games for myself so this is really helpful. From my personal experience, most of the stats are looking pretty good, right out of the box. The only blip would be the inflated home runs (already had two pitchers gone deep in fewer than 10 games played). Bumping power slider down to 4 seems to help a little, but I'm a bit concerned of the effects it will have on overall offense, which is actually pretty good on default for once.

Anyways, I'd rather have that problem than the CPU not generating enough offense, which seemed to be the biggest issue in previous MLB games.

[DLion]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

How is the complete games looking like?

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Thanks for sharing. I haven't had a lot of time to test enough games for myself so this is really helpful. From my personal experience, most of the stats are looking pretty good, right out of the box. The only blip would be the inflated home runs (already had two pitchers gone deep in fewer than 10 games played). Bumping power slider down to 4 seems to help a little, but I'm a bit concerned of the effects it will have on overall offense, which is actually pretty good on default for once.

Anyways, I'd rather have that problem than the CPU not generating enough offense, which seemed to be the biggest issue in previous MLB games.

Yes my first test run was everything at Default except dropping Power down -1 to 4. I only ran 15 games but the HRs were at 0.80 and runs were around 3.20. Much smaller sample size, but agree with you that dropping power hurt the offense too much. For some reason every game when I started testing the wind was blowing out so that is why I messed with the wind to check and it definitely helped. There is still just a tad too much power but like you said it is better to have a slightly better offense then a weak offense IMO

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

How is the complete games looking like?

Not sure I understand sorry. Do you mean are Starting Pitchers getting complete games? If so, no. But it is in line with how the game has evolved in real life. Dominant performances will get you at least 7.0 IP

[DLion]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Not sure I understand sorry. Do you mean are Starting Pitchers getting complete games? If so, no. But it is in line with how the game has evolved in real life. Dominant performances will get you at least 7.0 IP

I was referring to how many complete games are you getting with your slider test? On default there are too many complete games in comparison to Mlb stats

[shawn306]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

So basically go with the defaults but boost the errors to 6 and bring the wind down to 0 ?

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

So basically go with the defaults but boost the errors to 6 and bring the wind down to 0 ?

Correct
Those 5 and Steal Ability +1 (6) & Steal Frequency +1 (6)

Through 46 CPU vs CPU games this is as close to 2019 MLB stats as I have seen

[sharkdaballer]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

What changes would occur if CPU Consistency is at 7?

[Ninjoid]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Good stuff Tgreer

I agree with you that the stats out of the box for cpu v cpu are pretty good and I don't think much tweaking is needed...I've played around with a few slider sets but keep returning to almost default.

The variation in match scores has also been good. Will give your tweaks a go once v1.05 comes out this morning and see how we go....but I do like your thinking.


Good to see you mate.

[Incognito]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Only done 10 games post 1.5 patch, all default sliders. My early takes on this:

- CPU offense is pretty much all or nothing. It either hits home runs or strikeout. I'm okay with slightly high # of HRs, but when it accounts for nearly 70% of total runs scored, it can be an issue.

- Teams are averaging just a little over 2.5 runs per game. I've rotated pitching staffs so I've seen starters 1-5 go at it but with similar results.

-CPU pitching seems a bit too overpowering at times with all the strikeouts (starters are averaging well over 10k per 9 inn.)

- High number of home runs and extra base hits, but very low number of singles hit.

Kinda difficult to come to conclusions at this point due to such a small sample size, but early impressions have me believing CPU has similar offensive problems from previous MLB The Show games, where it has difficulty scoring any runs outside of home runs hit.

It was just a few days ago where I thought the CPU offense was fine, outside the excessive home runs hit. But it's starting to show a few warts now.

[Incognito]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Just ran 30 games of CPU vs CPU with the following slider changes

CPU Contact 6
CPU Manager Hook 4
Fielding Errors IF 8
Throwing Errors IF 3
Fielder Arm Strength IF 4
Fielder Arm Strength OF 3
Baserunner Steal Ability 7

Results were
MLB The Show vs. real 2019 MLB season

R 5.17 (4.83)
H 9.56 (8.65)
E 0.43 (0.60)
2B 2.16 (1.75)
3B 0.06 (0.16)
HR 1.43 (1.40)
BB 3.57 (3.27)
K 8.67 (8.81)
SB 0.36 (0.47)
CS 0.13 (0.17)
DP 0.86 (0.71)
SP IP 4.63 (5.20)
AVG .251 (.252)

Overall it actually turned out pretty well, I think. Runs per game is above 2019 average but not unrealistic. The high number of doubles could be a contributing factor for that. I may increase the OF arm strength a little and see how that works. Another remedy could be dropping base running speed to 4, but I'm afraid that would have an adverse effect on base stealing and number of double plays, which I think is in a decent spot atm.

Starters were averaging fewer innings than normal but that's because there were three games where starters had a 1st inning exit due to an injury. That being said, I think the injuries slider may have to be bumped down slightly. Seems like starting pitchers keep dropping like flies, from what I've experienced.

I'd prefer to keep the wind for a little bit of added realism but may drop it down to 1 or 2.

[tgreer]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Just ran 30 games of CPU vs CPU with the following slider changes

CPU Contact 6
CPU Manager Hook 4
Fielding Errors IF 8
Throwing Errors IF 3
Fielder Arm Strength IF 4
Fielder Arm Strength OF 3
Baserunner Steal Ability 7

Results were
MLB The Show vs. real 2019 MLB season

R 5.17 (4.83)
H 9.56 (8.65)
E 0.43 (0.60)
2B 2.16 (1.75)
3B 0.06 (0.16)
HR 1.43 (1.40)
BB 3.57 (3.27)
K 8.67 (8.81)
SB 0.36 (0.47)
CS 0.13 (0.17)
DP 0.86 (0.71)
SP IP 4.63 (5.20)
AVG .251 (.252)

Overall it actually turned out pretty well, I think. Runs per game is above 2019 average but not unrealistic. The high number of doubles could be a contributing factor for that. I may increase the OF arm strength a little and see how that works. Another remedy could be dropping base running speed to 4, but I'm afraid that would have an adverse effect on base stealing and number of double plays, which I think is in a decent spot atm.

Starters were averaging fewer innings than normal but that's because there were three games where starters had a 1st inning exit due to an injury. That being said, I think the injuries slider may have to be bumped down slightly. Seems like starting pitchers keep dropping like flies, from what I've experienced.

I'd prefer to keep the wind for a little bit of added realism but may drop it down to 1 or 2.

Good info

I moved Injury down to 2 about 15-20 games ago and it definitely seemed to help with the injury frequency

[shaunhill256]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

What rosters do you use

[statdude]

Re: CPU vs CPU Stats vs 2019 MLB Stats

Just ran 30 games of CPU vs CPU with the following slider changes

CPU Contact 6
CPU Manager Hook 4
Fielding Errors IF 8
Throwing Errors IF 3
Fielder Arm Strength IF 4
Fielder Arm Strength OF 3
Baserunner Steal Ability 7

Results were
MLB The Show vs. real 2019 MLB season

R 5.17 (4.83)
H 9.56 (8.65)
E 0.43 (0.60)
2B 2.16 (1.75)
3B 0.06 (0.16)
HR 1.43 (1.40)
BB 3.57 (3.27)
K 8.67 (8.81)
SB 0.36 (0.47)
CS 0.13 (0.17)
DP 0.86 (0.71)
SP IP 4.63 (5.20)
AVG .251 (.252)

Overall it actually turned out pretty well, I think. Runs per game is above 2019 average but not unrealistic. The high number of doubles could be a contributing factor for that. I may increase the OF arm strength a little and see how that works. Another remedy could be dropping base running speed to 4, but I'm afraid that would have an adverse effect on base stealing and number of double plays, which I think is in a decent spot atm.

Starters were averaging fewer innings than normal but that's because there were three games where starters had a 1st inning exit due to an injury. That being said, I think the injuries slider may have to be bumped down slightly. Seems like starting pitchers keep dropping like flies, from what I've experienced.

I'd prefer to keep the wind for a little bit of added realism but may drop it down to 1 or 2.

Are these the only recommended slider changes, or do they also include the changes from your previous recommendations?