Looking for Ohtani trade input

[Friar Fanatic]

I always like to create my own universe in The Show and 23 will be no different. I like to write out storylines as the season progresses and the major storyline will be Ohtani.

If the Angels fall out of the race, what would a realistic package look like from the following teams for a half season Ohtani rental? And which teams would be most likely? (Assuming they are all in the race).

Dodgers
Mets
Padres
Yankees
Phillies
Cardinals

Thanks in advance!

[Caulfield]

Re: Looking for Ohtani trade input

I always like to create my own universe in The Show and 23 will be no different. I like to write out storylines as the season progresses and the major storyline will be Ohtani.

If the Angels fall out of the race, what would a realistic package look like from the following teams for a half season Ohtani rental? And which teams would be most likely? (Assuming they are all in the race).

Dodgers
Mets
Padres
Yankees
Phillies
Cardinals

Thanks in advance!

the Mets.
1 - if anyone can afford any and all players, it's Cohen

2- if anyone can afford to realistically trade away a great player or package of players, it's the Mets

so anything you work out with the NY Mets is realistic as far as I'm concerned. so fleece 'em. get in, get who you want from them, and get out. Mets will do more than fine with Ohtani and whoever they lose in conjunction.
my only concern is how this impacts Atlanta lol

[Friar Fanatic]

Re: Looking for Ohtani trade input

Awesome! Would Alvarez and Baty be too big of a realistic pay for the Mets, given there is competition from other teams for Ohtani?

[Caulfield]

Re: Looking for Ohtani trade input

Awesome! Would Alvarez and Baty be too big of a realistic pay for the Mets, given there is competition from other teams for Ohtani?

I think the Mets would jump on that particular 2-for-1 in a heartbeat
and it would be the Angels get the raw end of the deal,
unless for some reason LA needs to cut payroll and that's the direction they want to move

[jcar0725]

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Awesome! Would Alvarez and Baty be too big of a realistic pay for the Mets, given there is competition from other teams for Ohtani?

I dont think its enough. LA would need to get more in return, I feel.

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[cardinal511]

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I think Alvarez and Baty is too much of an overpay. I know not everyone loves Baseball Trade Values, but it has Alvarez's median value at 63.0, Baty's at 42, and Ohtani's at 61.1.

Thing is, by the deadline, Ohtani's value will be a decent bit lower than that because he's a half season rental in this scenario. And Alvarez and Baty's won't be much lower because they still have tons of control.

I could see the Mets doing something like Baty, Parada, and another prospect or two. I just don't see them moving Alvarez and Baty for one post-season run with Ohtani.

[mojoevobo]

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I have a strong feeling that Seattle will be a major player for Ohtani at the trade deadline, if this year is anything like last.

Off-season, if available, I think SF is going to be all in on him based on this offseason events.

If trading for him in game, being the Mets or anybody else, you have to remember he is above and beyond the greatest player of all time. I don’t think we can even imagine how great he is. So, if trying to keep things somewhat fair or realistic, you almost have to act like you are trading for 2 Ohtanis.
What I mean is, what would you trade for Ohtani the pitcher? Oh, now what would you trade for Ohtani the DH?

There you go..

[Caulfield]

Re: Looking for Ohtani trade input

I have a strong feeling that Seattle will be a major player for Ohtani at the trade deadline, if this year is anything like last.

Off-season, if available, I think SF is going to be all in on him based on this offseason events.

If trading for him in game, being the Mets or anybody else, you have to remember he is above and beyond the greatest player of all time. I don’t think we can even imagine how great he is. So, if trying to keep things somewhat fair or realistic, you almost have to act like you are trading for 2 Ohtanis.
What I mean is, what would you trade for Ohtani the pitcher? Oh, now what would you trade for Ohtani the DH?

There you go..

if the Angels trade Ohtani in-division to Seattle,
they'd be bigger fools than even I can imagine.
and I can imagine quite a lot

[EmpireWF]

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I dont think its enough. LA would need to get more in return, I feel.

Sent from my thoughts

Would first look at what Washington was able to get for Juan Soto, but Ohtani is in his walk year and there's little expectation he'll remain with the Angels. Then, wouldn't there be a huge bidding war among all the expected teams (Dodgers, Mets, Mariners, etc.) and then any teams with the trade assets who are in contention, even if it's a rental.

If the Angels are out of the hunt by July, I'd think a Mets trade offer would look something like: C Alvarez, SS Mauricio, OF Ramirez and maybe a pitcher.

[jcar0725]

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Would first look at what Washington was able to get for Juan Soto, but Ohtani is in his walk year and there's little expectation he'll remain with the Angels. Then, wouldn't there be a huge bidding war among all the expected teams (Dodgers, Mets, Mariners, etc.) and then any teams with the trade assets who are in contention, even if it's a rental.

If the Angels are out of the hunt by July, I'd think a Mets trade offer would look something like: C Alvarez, SS Mauricio, OF Ramirez and maybe a pitcher.

There would likely be an assumption that the big market teams would trade a lot for ohtani because I feel like they would be able to sign him long term. No? A smaller market team wouldn't be willing to give up as much.

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[bryanm1982]

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if the Angels trade Ohtani in-division to Seattle,
they'd be bigger fools than even I can imagine.
and I can imagine quite a lot

I understand the inter-division but I don’t know if that would matter too much in this case. Ohtani is in a walk year and he will probably test free agency don’t matter where he ends up at the end of the year if he’s traded or not. If Seattle would give the Angels the best package, they should take it. He would only be in the division for 2 months on top of playing the Mariners 6 less games this year.

[franch1se]

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Padres. They aren't afraid to make big trades or deal prospects and also have an owner that has no problems spending money. He also very well could have been a Padre if the NL had the DH back when he originally came over.

Not sure if they would deal Jackson Merrill for a rental but if anyone would trade a top prospect its the Pads. Maybe a package centered along Zavala and Lesko with a few others.

[Friar Fanatic]

Re: Looking for Ohtani trade input

I have a strong feeling that Seattle will be a major player for Ohtani at the trade deadline, if this year is anything like last.

Off-season, if available, I think SF is going to be all in on him based on this offseason events.

If trading for him in game, being the Mets or anybody else, you have to remember he is above and beyond the greatest player of all time. I don’t think we can even imagine how great he is. So, if trying to keep things somewhat fair or realistic, you almost have to act like you are trading for 2 Ohtanis.
What I mean is, what would you trade for Ohtani the pitcher? Oh, now what would you trade for Ohtani the DH?

There you go..

I think the Mets would jump on that particular 2-for-1 in a heartbeat
and it would be the Angels get the raw end of the deal,
unless for some reason LA needs to cut payroll and that's the direction they want to move

I am surprised nobody has favored the Dodgers here.

Padres. They aren't afraid to make big trades or deal prospects and also have an owner that has no problems spending money. He also very well could have been a Padre if the NL had the DH back when he originally came over.

Not sure if they would deal Jackson Merrill for a rental but if anyone would trade a top prospect its the Pads. Maybe a package centered along Zavala and Lesko with a few others.

Any MLB talent or just prospects?

[Caulfield]

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I am surprised nobody has favored the Dodgers here.

that would be interesting consideration for Shohei himself, not having to pack up and move to a new town. going to the Dodgers might mean more than a half season rental, he might want to commit there for another 5 years