PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

[Comp625]

The Show is the most realistic and in-depth sports video game franchise that I've ever played. Improved graphics, enhanced audio, and tweaked ball physics are critical ingredients for game sales. Yet, I am disappointed every year about how the CPU Trade Logic (or lack thereof). It is very annoying to self-manage trades for all teams...

Does anyone know if The Show '14 will feature improved CPU trade logic?

[Clarke99]

Re: PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

Yes according to PSnation podcast, and also Wrong section of forum

[Born Again]

Re: PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

Trade logic for the A.I. will always be as flawed as human trade logic is. See the Red Sox giving Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson or the Phillies sending Ryne Sandberg AND Larry Bowa for Ivan DeJesus or Toronto dealing Michael Young for Estaban Loaiza or any other of a hundred head scratching trades.

[CaseIH]

Re: PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

The Show is the most realistic and in-depth sports video game franchise that I've ever played. Improved graphics, enhanced audio, and tweaked ball physics are critical ingredients for game sales. Yet, I am disappointed every year about how the CPU Trade Logic (or lack thereof). It is very annoying to self-manage trades for all teams...

Does anyone know if The Show '14 will feature improved CPU trade logic?

I think every year they tweak trade logic, so my guess is this year they did again. I dont think it will ever be perfect, as I am sure its something that very hard to code into any sport game. Thankfully we have the ability to control all teams, without having to actually control everything with every team. Not sure why a lot of people struggle to understand that by using 30 team control does not mean you have to control everything involved with each organization. You can do as much or as little as you want, and imo if you like your franchise to replicate real life or close to it the only way to go is 30 team control. What I do is leave everything to auto but watch trades offered and if I dont thing its realistic I nix it before it happens.

[riotmonster]

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I was so happy when they fixed retirements, and I'll be even more happy when the trade logic is greatly improved.

Trades are so out of control that on multiple occasions I've had to turn CPU trades off until around the all star break. Maybe there should be a slider for trade frequency.

[MikeA]

Re: PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

The Show is the most realistic and in-depth sports video game franchise that I've ever played. Improved graphics, enhanced audio, and tweaked ball physics are critical ingredients for game sales. Yet, I am disappointed every year about how the CPU Trade Logic (or lack thereof). It is very annoying to self-manage trades for all teams...

Does anyone know if The Show '14 will feature improved CPU trade logic?

No, the trade logic is as bad as ever. This has been an issue for the last 7 years and they have been too lazy to fix the issue. I play rtts 95% of the time and the unrealistic trades has ruined the game forever for me. It's just way too frustrating to play.

[Mitchrapp]

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I think every year they tweak trade logic, so my guess is this year they did again. I dont think it will ever be perfect, as I am sure its something that very hard to code into any sport game. Thankfully we have the ability to control all teams, without having to actually control everything with every team. Not sure why a lot of people struggle to understand that by using 30 team control does not mean you have to control everything involved with each organization. You can do as much or as little as you want, and imo if you like your franchise to replicate real life or close to it the only way to go is 30 team control. What I do is leave everything to auto but watch trades offered and if I dont thing its realistic I nix it before it happens.

So I can just control the trade aspect of it? That would be nice. Thanks.

[decga]

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No, the trade logic is as bad as ever. This has been an issue for the last 7 years and they have been too lazy to fix the issue. I play rtts 95% of the time and the unrealistic trades has ruined the game forever for me. It's just way too frustrating to play.

Question to you my friend. How can they fix it? Give them suggestions to fix the trade logic. All I hear is complaints!

[MrOldboy]

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The big issue, at least for me, I'm sure others have their own gripes about the trade logic...Is how terribly undervalued top prospects are to their teams.

Its why when I read something like this in one of the dev blogs I get excited

...so forget about lopsided trades involving three top prospects for an average major league middle reliever.

but then realize it was only added to online franchise.

Given how they described the new logic in the blog it shows they know the trade logic is lacking which means it should improve in the future, but its really sad to me that offline franchise did not get whatever new logic which was created for online franchise. I understand how it happened, but it doesn't make it any less sad to me.

[ZealousMonkey]

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Honestly, I am mostly supporting this first year for fun. I will only more than likely do a season on this version when the OS rosters hit and that is about it. I expect 15 to make some pretty big strides though.

[MikeA]

Re: PS4 The Show 14 - Trade Logic Improved?

Trade logic for the A.I. will always be as flawed as human trade logic is. See the Red Sox giving Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson or the Phillies sending Ryne Sandberg AND Larry Bowa for Ivan DeJesus or Toronto dealing Michael Young for Estaban Loaiza or any other of a hundred head scratching trades.

Dumbest thing I've heard all day. Just a few minutes ago Cubs trade Kris Bryant and Javier Baez to the Reds for Sean Marshall!! That's realistic!! So the re-building Cubs trade their two top blue chip prospects for a veteran relief pitcher who they had a few years ago! This game is unplayable.

[MikeA]

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Question to you my friend. How can they fix it? Give them suggestions to fix the trade logic. All I hear is complaints!

Um, well lets start with giving the user the option of turning trades off during rtts.. Some might think this is unrealstic, but it's much more realistic then rebuilding teams trading all f their top prospects for over the hill veterans. No other sport game has these type of issues so why is it an issue with mlb the show? NHL 14's trades are turned way down and the trades are realistic..

If Madden had trades like MLB the show they would look like this.. Packers trade Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, and Jordy Nelson to the Patriots for Aaron Hernandez.. while he's in jail.. Even though the Pats already have Tom Brady.

You see teams in mlb the Show with three all-stars at one position and trade a top prospect to get them.

[geisterhome]

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Question to you my friend. How can they fix it? Give them suggestions to fix the trade logic. All I hear is complaints!

costumers shouldn't be in charge to fix the product they are buying

generally real life and in game trade logic are both flawed in their own ways, while in game its even a bit worse than in reality imo.. if it's really that hard to fix, which i could imagine it to be, then giving us an option to decrease trade frequency (while not turning it off completely) would be nice for a start.

Honestly, I am mostly supporting this first year for fun. I will only more than likely do a season on this version when the OS rosters hit and that is about it. I expect 15 to make some pretty big strides though.

I have bigger hopes for 16 actually, not sure when 15 for the ps4 will come out but I suppose rather a bit earlier than this year. that would give them less than the regular 12 months to work on the 2016 version. and at the same time probably the ps3 version will still play a pretty big role next year.

[seasprite]

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Dumbest thing I've heard all day. Just a few minutes ago Cubs trade Kris Bryant and Javier Baez to the Reds for Sean Marshall!! That's realistic!! So the re-building Cubs trade their two top blue chip prospects for a veteran relief pitcher who they had a few years ago! This game is unplayable.

"unplayable" is really just an overused word for annoying

[tessl]

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I don't interfere with trades between cpu controlled teams but I do have self imposed restrictions on my own trades with the cpu which seriously restrict my ability to acquire the players I want.