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Old 05-15-2014, 01:46 PM   #41
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Its because there is rubber banding build into the CPU AI in sports video games. Its how it stays competitive. When it wasn't built in like on the genesis / SNES era games, we got stuff like NHL 94 or 95 where you could win games 18-1 on a regular basis and that is on 5 minute periods.

When I was a kid for fun I played a 20 minute period game and I won 84-1.
If there is such a thing as rubber band AI, then:

1) Why does it not exist in every game? (When human blows out cpu)
2) What triggers it?

If it does exist then there has to be something within the game that triggers it to happen.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:58 PM   #42
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Re: This game feels so scripted at times

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If there is such a thing as rubber band AI, then:

1) Why does it not exist in every game? (When human blows out cpu)
2) What triggers it?

If it does exist then there has to be something within the game that triggers it to happen.
It doesn't have to happen every game. It can happen just enough to keep a season competitive. I never know why people can't admit there is rubber banding AI in sports game when some Devs have admitted to it in the past like the NHL EA guy did one year.

It can just trigger randomly just like everything else does in video games. Its all a formula , just like in games like NBA2k14 where the CPU decides when your shot is going to go in or not.

You can release the shot stick at the exact same time every time but the shot isn't always going to go in since there is some formula in the background that deicides when that shot goes in and when it doesnt.

Just like rubber banding does.

Why in NBA2k14 can you take a shot at the end of the game and release it at the exact same time as another game but one time it will go in and the other it won't?

People give examples and bring it up every year, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, its a duck.

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Old 05-15-2014, 02:05 PM   #43
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It doesn't have to happen every game. It can happen just enough to keep a season competitive. I never know why people can't admit there is rubber banding AI in sports game when some Devs have admitted to it in the past like the NHL EA guy did one year.
But the devs for the Show have said that it doesn't exist in the game. There is no comeback code or rubber banding AI.

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It can just trigger randomly just like everything else does in video games. Its all a formula , just like in games like NBA2k14 where the CPU decides when your shot is going to go in or not.

You can release the shot stick at the exact same time every time but the shot isn't always going to go in since there is some formula in the background that deicides when that shot goes in and when it doesnt.

Just like rubber banding does.

Why in NBA2k14 can you take a shot at the end of the game and release it at the exact same time as another game but one time it will go in and the other it won't?

People give examples and bring it up every year, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, its a duck.
But by this explanation, why would one play sports video games at all, since they all seem be scripted?

The examples are always the same every year. Someone loses a game to the cpu due to the cpu making a comeback and they scream rubber band AI/Comeback Code/Scripted.

It NEVER starts when the human comes back against the cpu. Those are categorized as great accomplishments.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:15 PM   #44
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Re: This game feels so scripted at times

I just lost to the Rangers 12-0. Where was my rubber band at!?
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Games been out 9 days.

Im surprised it took this long for this thread to rear its head this year, must be a record...
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:24 PM   #46
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But the devs for the Show have said that it doesn't exist in the game. There is no comeback code or rubber banding AI.



But by this explanation, why would one play sports video games at all, since they all seem be scripted?

The examples are always the same every year. Someone loses a game to the cpu due to the cpu making a comeback and they scream rubber band AI/Comeback Code/Scripted.

It NEVER starts when the human comes back against the cpu. Those are categorized as great accomplishments.
Why would anyone play a sports video game if you could go 162-0 in a baseball game or 82-0 in a basketball game?

No one said it happens on the time, that is why people say at times it seems scripted.



You can lose a game and know why you lost and those are not the games people are taking about. Those are not the games people complain about.

Its the games where you will be winning in the bottom of the 9th and you will have two errors in a row on easy ground balls with a gold glove IF, then the #9 hitter who has no power hits a home run to win the game on a waste pitch that was not even in the strike zone.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:30 PM   #47
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Why would anyone play a sports video game if you could go 162-0 in a baseball game or 82-0 in a basketball game?
Personally I wouldn't.

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No one said it happens on the time, that is why people say at times it seems scripted.
Again if its scripted, then something inside the code has to trigger it to happen.





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You can lose a game and know why you lost and those are not the games people are taking about. Those are not the games people complain about.

Its the games where you will be winning in the bottom of the 9th and you will have two errors in a row on easy ground balls with a gold glove IF, then the #9 hitter who has no power hits a home run to win the game on a waste pitch that was not even in the strike zone.
The devs have stated repeatedly that there is no such comeback code/rubber band AI/Scripting of the games.

if you believe its there then I would suggest start recording the end of your games where you think it may happen due to the situation and submit it to the devs for them to review.

Or else figure out what is triggering it to happen. Because otherwise there will be solution to the "problem".
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Why would anyone play a sports video game if you could go 162-0 in a baseball game or 82-0 in a basketball game?

No one said it happens on the time, that is why people say at times it seems scripted.



You can lose a game and know why you lost and those are not the games people are taking about. Those are not the games people complain about.

Its the games where you will be winning in the bottom of the 9th and you will have two errors in a row on easy ground balls with a gold glove IF, then the #9 hitter who has no power hits a home run to win the game on a waste pitch that was not even in the strike zone.

So basically... Seeing the same things you may see in real life? Seems Legit.
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