Sliding into first

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShaBoomer

You kids need to learn how to read. Please show me where I said it was always faster. I said it can sometimes be faster. I also said there are more reasons to slide into first than to just avoid being tagged (hence the first 2 videos posted). But please, keep arguing....there's no reason why facts and logic should be involved.

I can appreciate your need to be right as that is what makes message boards fun.

But do not patronize me or other posters.

I'm an adult, presumably like you. I'm nearly 40 years old and to have you talk down to me like that is downright pathetic especially coming from someone who wants to act like an adult. Grow up.


So by all means, if you want to continue a discussion to make a point, feel free to do so but you will act like the adult you are and stop patronizing others.

Thank you.

[ShaBoomer]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I can appreciate your need to be right as that is what makes message boards fun. But do not patronize me or other posters. I'm an adult, presumably like you. I played baseball through college and was a pitching coach for a team that made it to the DIII college world series. So by all means, if you want to continue a discussion to make a point, feel free to do so but you will act like the adult you are and stop patronizing others. Thank you.

I'm not arguing that I'm right. In fact, I posted a video showing how running through was 10ms faster than sliding. Reading my post would help you realize that.

The point is you and Jr. want to be right and are arguing about something I didn't even say. And best of all, you can't even admit it.

The point is this: Sliding into 1st is a viable option. If it wasn't, nobody would do it. And we all know that players do it all the time.

Can you admit that?

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShaBoomer

I'm not arguing that I'm right. In fact, I posted a video showing how running through was 10ms faster than sliding. Reading my post would help you realize that. The point is you and Jr. want to be right and are arguing about something I didn't even say. And best of all, you can't even admit it. The point is this: Sliding into 1st is a viable option. If it wasn't, nobody would do it. And we all know that players do it all the time. Can you admit that?

Sure. I never disagreed with that nor did I say anything to the contrary. Can you admit that since you are the one making accusations that aren't even correct?

And I'm not exactly positive but I'm pretty sure Jr. didn't either.

May want to go back and re-read before acting high and mighty.


The whole issue is the fact that you took issue to someone disagreeing with your videos and starting talking down to people for no reason.

"If you just want to be right and want to keep arguing have at it."

[ShaBoomer]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Sure. I never disagreed with that nor did I say anything to the contrary. Can you admit that since you are the one making accusations that aren't even correct? And I'm not exactly positive but I'm pretty sure Jr. didn't either. May want to go back and re-read before acting high and mighty. The whole issue is the fact that you took issue to someone disagreeing with your videos and starting talking down to people for no reason. "If you just want to be right and want to keep arguing have at it."

LOL... Okay, I give up. You and Jr. both disagreed with me, without even understanding my point.

You yourself said: "None of the video's you posted prove it's faster, just shows that they were safe. No point made at all."

Even though I never said it was faster. I said, in certain situations, it can be faster. The first two videos were also to show that there is more reason to slide into first than to avoid a tag play when the 1B is taken off the bag (my original point).

Proving you didn't even understand my point to begin with, you just wanted to argue. All you and Jr. are hung up on is if it's faster or not.

So let's just agree to disagree.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by ShaBoomer

Proving you didn't even understand my point to begin with, you just wanted to argue. All you and Jr. are hung up on is if it's faster or not.

Geez, I don't know why your so abrasive or so hell bent on this.


I agree I didn't understand your point. This is the first I've read this thread, skimmed through it all, saw a lot of posts saying different things.


But for you to ask me if I'm man enough to admit I'm wrong or whatever you said when I never even made an assertion about the subject is ridiculous.

I don't need to agree to disagree with anything since I don't disagree with the fact that it is effective at times (as I said in my last post) and if that's your only point there is no disagreement.


Geez man, take it easy.

[ShaBoomer]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Geez, I don't know why your so abrasive or so hell bent on this. I agree I didn't understand your point. This is the first I've read this thread, skimmed through it all, saw a lot of posts saying different things. But for you to ask me if I'm man enough to admit I'm wrong or whatever you said when I never even made an assertion about the subject is ridiculous. I don't need to agree to disagree with anything since I don't disagree with the fact that it is effective at times (as I said in my last post) and if that's your only point there is no disagreement. Geez man, take it easy.

LOL. Me take it easy? You're the one saying I "made no point at all" when you didn't even read the thread. To me, that's arguing for the point of arguing.

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

None of the video's you posted prove it's faster, just shows that they were safe. No point made at all.

This is an assertion, made by you.

If you interpret my tone as being upset, it's all in your head. To be honest, it doesn't matter if you agree with me or not.

[kehlis]

Okay then. Have a good one.

[Jr.]

My first part was disputing the support you made for your argument. You said it's faster sometimes by showing videos of guys being safe, a video that said running is faster, and a link to an article that argues a different point.

My second point about sprinters was added because I don't think it's faster at all. You said that you don't always think it's faster, but sometimes you think it is. I disagree, I don't think it's ever faster.

I think sliding into first is only viable if you need to avoid a tag. I think baserunners that do it when there is no tag are incredibly dumb and are only risking injury to make it more likely that they'll be out. My reasoning for that is based in biomechanics. You have to load up to slide, which means you are slowing down your momentum. I've never seen someone slide without having to change their stride (which slows them down).